YAMAHA AV Receiver

up2nogooduk · 31 Dec 2009 at 15:28

I been looking to get this, worth getting?

http://www.richersounds.com/product/av-receivers/yamaha/rxv465/yama-rxv465-blk

It's For a my 5.1 B&W surround sound for my pc set, via blu ray and gaming.
I have a Asus P6T v2 Intel X58 motherboard. would i need to get a better sound card that supports optical sound ?
would this be what i would have to use when playing games in 5.1, or does the game have to support 5.1 DTS etc.

Could someone please give us some advise.
Thanks a lot.

Chong Warrior · 31 Dec 2009 at 16:54

It's a decent amp for the money and capable of decoding HD audio formats from blu-ray.

I've been doing quite a lot of reading up on home cinema kits and I think when aiming for the low budget end it's a case of looking where they've cut the corners. Then asking yourself are they corners you'll miss?

For the money this model is decent, they've cut corners as it's only 5.1. Will the lack of being able to upgrade to 7.1 later bother you? Also this amp uses cheapo spring clips for the speakers at the back as opposed to banana connectors - though it does have two for front L & R. If you're the kind of user who has some big, thick speaker cables then this would rule out this amp.

I've been weighing up wether to buy this amp and spend more money on speakers or buy it's bigger brother the 765 and a little less on speakers... swings and roundabouts, nightmare lol

up2nogooduk · 31 Dec 2009 at 17:01

Chong Warrior said:
It's a decent amp for the money and capable of decoding HD audio formats from blu-ray.

I've been doing quite a lot of reading up on home cinema kits and I think when aiming for the low budget end it's a case of looking where they've cut the corners. Then asking yourself are they corners you'll miss?

For the money this model is decent, they've cut corners as it's only 5.1. Will the lack of being able to upgrade to 7.1 later bother you? Also this amp uses cheapo spring clips for the speakers at the back as opposed to binding posts. If you're the kind of user who has some big, thick speaker cables then this would rule out this amp.

I've been weighing up wether to buy this amp and spend more money on speakers or buy it's bigger brother the 765 and a little less on speakers... swings and roundabouts, nightmare lol

I'll never use 7.1. the 5.1 is just nice for me.
I think it's a nice amp for what i want.
Just need to understand how it would work the the pc set up?
do i need a sound card that has HDMI connection for true hd sound or what ?
also with gaming.. ?
Are you using it for pc ?

Chong Warrior · 31 Dec 2009 at 17:06

Not sure for PC but I think it will depend on your graphics card. If youve got a fairly recent ATI card then they can do audio over the HDMI cable, I'm not so sure about NVidia cards with sound. Though there's always the option of using optical?

Pug · 31 Dec 2009 at 17:28

i use its baby rother - the RXv361 - for home cinema, and its an amazing amp for the money. Totally happy with it. It even made my new Mordaunt Shorts sound great as a hifi amp, before my cambridge audio one turned up. You'll be chuffed with it! Though i would warn you and say apparently (i have no experience to speak of) PCs are a nightmare to get the proper full HD sound output working, requiring the purchasing of particular software to make the out pout even possible - but i do not know for certain. DTS/DD are simple, and done even by onboard audio.

whitecrook · 1 Jan 2010 at 00:31

Pug said:
i use its baby rother - the RXv361 -

So do I. It's alright, To get PC sound into the best way is to use a digital conenction, either optical, or in my case a coaxial link. This acts as a pass through.

Only some of the more expensive chipsets have DD encoders etc.

This amp also has analogue 5.1 in, so for surround gaming etc, I can route some analogue cables in to it and that works great as well.

up2nogooduk · 1 Jan 2010 at 13:53

whitecrook said:
So do I. It's alright, To get PC sound into the best way is to use a digital conenction, either optical, or in my case a coaxial link. This acts as a pass through.

Only some of the more expensive chipsets have DD encoders etc.

This amp also has analogue 5.1 in, so for surround gaming etc, I can route some analogue cables in to it and that works great as well.

What sound card do you use mate?
So, for blue ray films, i can just use optical or coaxial ?(any differents in either) and choose 5.1 DTS for the film?. (if the movie supports that) then use analogue 5.1 for my games. ? does the amp sort out the analogue 5.1, or does the game have to support it?

Cheers.

whitecrook · 1 Jan 2010 at 14:11

I've got on board ALC 7.1 with HDMI/spdif header on the mobo (vsta dual s775)

Double check if that amp accepts discrete 5.1 in.

Blu ray might be weird because of HDCP ad stuff. I doubt I'll ever own a blu ray. I have used it with xvid/mkv rips and they work fine, or you can use ac3 filter and out put the way using ffdshow audio processing as well.

someone who knows more should probably chime in.

Schizophonic · 1 Jan 2010 at 14:18

If you plan to enable trueHD or DTS-HD then getting one these, it will decode the audio and into your amp.

You need to get a dedicated sound like one of these:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=SC-007-AS&groupid=701&catid=11&subcat=

The sound card on your graphics card does 8 channel (7 speakers + Sub) but it only does it in Dolby digital or 7.1 stereo.

When i first got into home cinema kit, i wasn't into all of that fancy audio stuff but when watching a good film with good speakers you want to create that dramatic effect like in the cinema.

up2nogooduk · 1 Jan 2010 at 14:54

Schizophonic said:
If you plan to enable trueHD or DTS-HD then getting one these, it will decode the audio and into your amp.

You need to get a dedicated sound like one of these:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=SC-007-AS&groupid=701&catid=11&subcat=

The sound card on your graphics card does 8 channel (7 speakers + Sub) but it only does it in Dolby digital or 7.1 stereo.

When i first got into home cinema kit, i wasn't into all of that fancy audio stuff but when watching a good film with good speakers you want to create that dramatic effect like in the cinema.

What you think of this? http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=SC-003-AS

I need it to be pci express, due to no room in the case.
I want best of both worlds. i play blue ray, so need HD true.
and I also play normal DVD's.
which i would like to use the normal DTS.
So i need an optical connection on the sound card don't i ?
Plus i'll need an analog connetion on the card for 5.1 games ?
Would that car i just put up work ? or shall i just get cheaper card and watch blu ray via optical with cheaper card ? im not 100 up on sound card

cheers.

Schizophonic · 1 Jan 2010 at 15:51

up2nogooduk said:
What you think of this? http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=SC-003-AS

I need it to be pci express, due to no room in the case.
I want best of both worlds. i play blue ray, so need HD true.
and I also play normal DVD's.
which i would like to use the normal DTS.
So i need an optical connection on the sound card don't i ?
Plus i'll need an analog connetion on the card for 5.1 games ?
Would that car i just put up work ? or shall i just get cheaper card and watch blu ray via optical with cheaper card ? im not 100 up on sound card

cheers.

Thats even better if your happy to spend the dosh. You cannot use optical to get those audio formats. Its got to be connect all via HDMI.

Using Total Media Threater that comes packaged with the sound card is the only software i know that does HDMI pass through (i.e. act like a Blue-Ray player). That sound card will be your heart of the sound so you have to use that and switch on your AMP if you need any sound ouptput.