Yet another fail thread... replacement cheapskate car!

To be honest I didn't see where the discussion was going. 'No' Twincharging is not a new idea and 'Yes', it is what makes the TSI units vaguely interesting. I'm not sure how we're going to get any sort of debate going on that.

Well the internal combustion engine isn't a new idea either, so presumably that bores you also? What I'm trying to get out of you is an acknowledgment that pointing out that twin-charging has been around for years is, without context, a pointless observation.
 
Well the internal combustion engine isn't a new idea either, so presumably that bores you also? What I'm trying to get out of you is an acknowledgment that pointing out that twin-charging has been around for years is, without context, a pointless observation.

I thought the context was painfully clear? The fact the TSI engine is considered "Engine of the year", no doubt down to the twin charging concept which isn't as fresh and revolutionary as some people (including Volkswagen) like to imply.
 
What's painfully clear is that your reference to Nissan's early twin charge system was totally pointless. It won engine of the year because of its extremely good implementation of the concept, not because it claimed to have invented twin-charging :confused:.
 
What's painfully clear is that your reference to Nissan's early twin charge system was totally pointless. It won engine of the year because of its extremely good implementation of the concept, not because it claimed to have invented twin-charging :confused:.

+1

Engine of the year doesn't get voted for by housewives collecting cereal boxes. FWIW mine got it every year for the 1 litre class 00-06 :p
 
By winning the overall International Engine of the Year Award for the second consecutive year, VW’s innovative TSI Twincharger has proved it’s no one-hit wonder. In fact, only two other engines throughout the 12-year history of the International Engine of the Year Awards have won the overall award back-to-back: first BMW’s 5-litre V10 heart in 2005 and 2006, and then the Bavarian car maker’s 3-litre twin turbo unit, which was victorious in 2007 and 2008.

So, Wolfsburg’s TSI Twincharger joins an exclusive club, but it had to work hard to gain membership, beating the 2007 and 2008 champion by only 19 points in this year’s race.

Like last year, VW’s 1.4-litre unit managed to gather points from markets outside Europe, with judges in North America, Asia and South America all awarding top marks. “Last year’s IEOTY is still the most accurate, efficient pointer to the future of petrol power. It was an easy choice,” said Australian-based motoring journalist Bill McKinnon. Canadian Jim Kenzie was equally impressed: “The VW Twincharger engine remains the best combination of various technologies to produce high power with low emissions and fuel consumption.”

The four-cylinder combines a turbocharger and supercharger in one compact unit. The result is power of up to 178bhp, but what’s most impressive is the engine’s specific power that attains 127.1bhp per litre of displacement. And with 240Nm of torque coming good at 1,500rpm, it’s easy to see why the jurors that look for performance and sporty characteristics were impressed.

But power is just part of the story for this year’s International Engine of the Year. The TSI derivative mated to VW’s DSG system emits 144g CO2/ km, and in a Golf application, while fuel consumption is rated at 6.2 l/100km (45.5mpg). With those figures, it’s little wonder that TSI twincharger yet won.

I think a little more thought went into awarding it IEOTY for the second year running than 'TWINCHARGED FOR THE WIN'
 
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Oddly if we are talking about his individual needs why does he care at all about fuel consumption if he only uses it for commuting to work 4 miles away?

Hell, if I only had to do a 4 mile commute i'd screw economy and just drive whatever the hell I'd like.
 
If I didn't have this horrible knack of driving around the UK, then I'd have something a lot beefier. This car is a good balance. :p

Nice to see the usual people are arguing the toss, it's been a fun read... cheers! :D
 
Cheers :)

Today I found new ABS sensors for £15... so rung the breakers yard up and told them to cancel the order for the 2nd hand one. Just not worth it, I'll try and stop being a *****. :p

Also, new backbox came, and downpipe/front section is at the local APC depot. Off to get that in the morning.

Going to pop both hubs off at the weekend to inspect all of the bushes and ball joints, I expect some are quite worn so expect a lot of swearies on Sunday night. :D

Looking good, driving good and doesn't half shift. Well chuffed.

:)
 
Backbox fitted, but sadly the centre section of the exhaust is also knackered, and the new down pipe didn't fit. Ah well! :D

New downpipe (the right one this time, learn to read Mat) found for £30. Also ordered:

- All gaskets and exhaust rubbers, can't be bothered with a rattling / leaky exhaust. £5.
- Cam belt. £10 (Old stock, on eBay). Due at 210,000 miles so got it ready.
- Water pump. £15. Not leaking but at 196,000 miles who knows... best to be safe. :)

For the power, this really is bargain basement motoring. Loving it! :cool:
 
Helps you've got the experience to fit it all yourself

Charges would soon mount up paying an Indy's rates of £40 / £50 an hour.
 
I do all work myself, currently swapping the cylinder head on the ZS too, free labour! :p

Ordered a few niggly coolant pipes that are pennies a piece, with age and heat they could probably do with renewing.
 
Right, got a bit further with this.

- Camshaft covered resealed
- New downpipe fitted, rest of exhaust rejoined and refitted
- Cleaned up door switches
- Gear linkage adjusted to tighten gear change
- Checked all coolant hoses, ordered replacements for those that look perished (£10)

Also, ordered:
- New spark plugs
- Mongoose stainless steel exhaust
- Original Rover cat converter

Did a 100 mile trip in it yesterday, flies like a good'un and is pretty good on the juice too. Winner! :D
 
Cheers mate, touch wood it's been solid. Still can't believe it myself, pulls lovely in every gear.

I've got out of driving like a **** so economy is also better than expected, and hopefully it won't break as much as my last one. :D
 
Downpipe - £35
Water pump (not needed, matter of course) - £15
Cam belt - £10
ABS sensor - £15
Exhaust gaskets and rubbers - £5
Various hoses - £15

So about £100 to get it up to spec, so less than £300 all in with cambelt done, and lots of new hoses and water pump. Chuffed. :)
 
Please please please please keep this one. Next time you come to think about selling and buying something boring and economical, just think how much this thing has cost you and how much it'd cost you to change.

There's no reason why a T16 can't be pretty damn reliable. Apart from doing an oil change a couple of months ago, the only thing I've had to replace since coming back from the Ring is a driveshaft after shearing it in two following a fairly enthusiast start :o

Get this one perfect, enjoy it and leave it at that. If you start going on about wanting to change it for a derv, I'll come round and slap you silly :p

I don't understand people who bleat on about how they're spending money on a car only worth a couple of hundred quid. I'd much rather spend money on maintaining something slightly older that's quick and fun to drive (all subjective of course) than a new pile of Chinese metal or something like that.
 
Sorted out the clutch problem or is just very worn?

You would be changing the waterpump at the same time as the cambelt, aux belt and potentially the tensioner anyway at 210k so makes sense to have the waterpump ;)
 
The rover 600 is a very nice car, I had a 620 diesel, did a 100k miles in it with just the usual service, and drove it hard constantly, sold it running perfectly too, the car only cost me 300 quid.
 
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