Young Drivers Banned at Night?

[Vertigo]

They already do this.

You are limited to six points for the first two years after passing your test no matter what age you are.

I'm well aware of the current system and it's nothing like what I've proposed. Currently, if you hit the six point limit, your licence is revoked but you are then free to take your test again immediately, so you could be back on the road again within days.

 

[Vertigo]

all your doing is forcing that type of drive to wait till they are 21 though

wont change it. They will still want to drive fast etc..

But the majority will be far more tempered and "sensible" by the time they reach 21.

 

[D18241]

Up to 24? What on earth...

If you pass when your 24 it will be 2years after that before your aloud to drive at night. I passed when i was 23 did 80% of my lessons at night time but i wouldnt be able to drive untill i am 25 its soo stupid

Never mind going to work in winter when its dark before and after work

 

[Fr0dders]

But the majority will be far more tempered and "sensible" by the time they reach 21.

guess we'll have to disagree

i think i'd still be exactly the same at 21.

It was knowing what happens when you go past the limit that enabled me to have fun driving fast, but at such a level that i dont crash once every 3 months.

 

[snowdog]

They do already, its called car insurance premiums

That is not such a big issue though.

One of my mates works at day and night as he's a self employed, well erm painter, he paints companies and schools etc. He needs to drive a van with his stuff to earn his money, without a license or being able to drive at night he'd simply not earn as much money.

Insurance premium may be higher for him than elderly people, it doesn't stop him from buying a 760i in a couple of months as his first real car ( the van is his dads, he also drives a 525i of his mother atm ) because he earns enough to pay for it.

 

[Dave M]

New drivers have more accidents for two reasons:

Inexperience
Showing off

How does a night curfew help either?

I've always thought there should be a mandated number of hours of professional instruction with a minimum number of hours in different conditions (e.g. dark, wet, dual carriageway etc).

In addition to this for the first 2 years you are not allowed to carry passengers. It's only sensible that you are not allowed to risk more lives when you are statistically most likely to have an accident and to be honest young men take more risks when showing off to their mates.

 

[Judgeneo]

17-24 !

thats a huge age range. If this comes into play, I play as well not bother learning.

 

[mufc802]

In addition to this for the first 2 years you are not allowed to carry passengers. It's only sensible that you are not allowed to risk more lives when you are statistically most likely to have an accident and to be honest young men take more risks when showing off to their mates.

What if you wanted to take your parents somewhere? Is this also not allowed? Yet again more nonsense, I pay my insurance just like you so stop taking away things like this.

 

[Jono8]

"They claim the restrictions, for 17 to 24-year-olds, would save 200 lives and 1,700 injuries on the road."

Per hour, month, year, lifetime? Useless made up statistic is useless...

 

[Janesy B]

Will probably get a load of hate over this but whatever...

They should change the "standard" age for driving to 21, however you'll still be permitted to take your test from 17 and then drive as you currently do. The difference would be that, between the ages of 17 and 21, your license to drive would effectively be a priviledge which, if abused, would be revoked.

Basically you'd be allowed up to 5 points on your licence before your 21st birthday. If you reach 6 points then the "priviledge" is revoked and you lose your licence until your 21st birthday.

This would seriously focus the mind of young drivers. If you want/need to drive between the ages of 17 and 21 then fine, you can, but you'll need to be careful so as not to forfeit that priviledge. I appreciate that someone who doesn't bother taking their test until they're 21 would also be "as new a driver" as a 17 year old but I maintain that the average 21 year old is a darn site more mature, sensible and less hormone-imbalanced than the average 17 year old.

Flame away

Look at the new driver act, more than 6 points in 24 months and you have to retake your test...

 

[ubersonic]

17-24 !

thats a huge age range. If this comes into play, I play as well not bother learning.

What about the 16yr old disabled drivers? would they have to stop driving at night when they turned 17? rofl

 

[MikeHiow]

Absolutely ridiculous. Taking away freedoms isn't the way to solve problems.

They need to stop coming up with **** ideas like this, and address the real problem - driver education.

For the record, this will never effect me (I'm 24 next month) and I still think its retarded. My partner is under 24 and just about to give birth - what happens if baby needs something and I'm not there? Or if she wants to drive with me in the car?

 

[gord]

When I was 17 - 21 I was working till late in pubs and I was riding my girlfriends at 2am or so as that's the only time we had together.

But seriously, 24, never heard something so ridiculous. Where did that number even come from?

 

[Danthus]

Just change the driving test to incorporate night time driving and motorway driving.

 

[bledd]

Your stupid idea is stupid.

Excellent input

This already exists, along with a driving curfew. A friends young brother passed not long ago and has such an insurance plan. Tracker fitted to the car, not allowed to drive between 11pm-6am. I don't believe there is speed tracking but I can't see why it isn't possible. It halved his insurance cost. Can't say I agree with all this big brother stuff though, it's just punishing the majority because of the foolish actions of the minority.

See I'd be all over this if I was still young.

Think I've only driven about 20 times in my life between those hours

 

[EdGey]

lol Cardiff uni.

 

[InvaderGIR]

See I'd be all over this if I was still young.

Think I've only driven about 20 times in my life between those hours

At 17 and living in the middle of nowhere I was driving loads after 11pm. If I went to the cinema with friends it's over an hour's drive away. Most films in the evenings finish after 11pm so I'd not be back home till after midnight. Add to that family members borrowing cars if need be and the car could well be used between 11pm and 6am, so a tracker would be a complete waste of time.

If I lived in a large busy town, fair enough, but living in the sticks both a curfew and a night driving ban are just silly.

I'm glad I will not have to have either though.

 

[bledd]

^Fair enough, I meant as an optional thing. I live so far in the sticks that the only thing worth going to at night time is the pub So I couldn't drive home anyway

 

[Dave M]

What if you wanted to take your parents somewhere? Is this also not allowed? Yet again more nonsense, I pay my insurance just like you so stop taking away things like this.

Society is all about taking things away from individuals for the good of the whole. I don't see how your premiums come into this.

It would perhaps be sensible to allow a passenger over 25 who has had a license for 2 years, just like learner drivers.

Do you not object to a minimum number of professional driving lessons? Most people say they cost too much, they can't afford them and they're a great driver anyway because they passed after 4 lessons and a practise with mum.

 

[apatia77]

I don't think this will change anything, there are good and bad drivers. You can be the bad one at any age really and what matters is experience behind the wheel. It's already hard and expensive to get your car license done.