Zonealarm and ms update kb951748

fester · 14 Jul 2008 at 20:13

Has anybody else been effected by the 8/8/2008 MS security update kb951748 update breaking Zonealarm and the lose of internet connection?

Nick644622 · 14 Jul 2008 at 20:27

Yes. lower the security to medium & update ZA

Glaucus · 14 Jul 2008 at 20:31

Za have already issued an update, just update it.

Nick644622 · 14 Jul 2008 at 20:33

Chicken & egg scenario, if he can't connect he can't update but then how did he post ?

Glaucus · 14 Jul 2008 at 20:37

Nick644622 said:
Chicken & egg scenario, if he can't connect he can't update but then how did he post ?

You turn the ZA off, it's not hard to figure out.

arknor · 14 Jul 2008 at 20:38

buy a router and get rid of software firewalls imo.

back in the day i used to use zonealarm when it was rather popular but after getting a router with a hardware firewall i could never go back to software

Nick644622 · 14 Jul 2008 at 20:39

Or safer still to lower the Firewall to medium, temporarily.

Nick644622 · 14 Jul 2008 at 20:42

arknor said:
buy a router and get rid of software firewalls imo.

back in the day i used to use zonealarm when it was rather popular but after getting a router with a hardware firewall i could never go back to software

But that lets anything out, granted nothing will get in, but the amount of seemingly innocent programs that want to connect is amazing.

fester · 14 Jul 2008 at 21:06

Nick644622 said:
Chicken & egg scenario, if he can't connect he can't update but then how did he post ?

Tipple boot thanks be to the ubuntu god .

Nick644622 · 14 Jul 2008 at 23:50

Is Ubuntu good at hardware recognition ? I dual booted with Red Hat for a while but my graphics & wireless weren't recognised & when it all went horrribly wrong I just put XP back on.

fester · 15 Jul 2008 at 09:04

Nick644622 said:
Is Ubuntu good at hardware recognition ? I dual booted with Red Hat for a while but my graphics & wireless weren't recognised & when it all went horrribly wrong I just put XP back on.

Ubuntu 8.04 is the only disto I can get to run on my rig apart from a fruity bsd based disto.

bledd · 15 Jul 2008 at 09:13

bledd. said:
zone alarm is a joke on any os, it's a steaming pos!

too right

VeNT · 15 Jul 2008 at 10:13

bledd. said:
it's a steaming pos!

what he said.

Uhtred · 15 Jul 2008 at 11:14

The concept of software firewalls is flawed. For a novice user they will get 100s of prompts for programmes and won't have a clue what to block and what not to block so they'll press allow all the time and even if there were a nasty programme they would probably click allow.

If an expert user is using the product along with AV then he is unlikely to get infected with anything in the first place.

All i have is a network monitor on the sidebar, a processor monitor on the sidebar to keep tabs on what's going on, and a lot of common sense. Anything unusual i have a quick look in task manager.

If you have a software firewall installed and a programme can’t connect the first thing you will suspect is the firewall and you can spend hours messing about with it, reinstalling it and messing about with settings.

In short what i'm saying is that all you need is NAT, secure browser, windows updates, AV and common sense. Software firewalls are extra bloat you don't need.

It’s just such a waste of time and effort, it’s up there with mac filtering and disabling SSIDs for wireless networks.