EVGA GTX 1080 FTW vs EVGA GTX 1080 "Classified"

razorpakk · 30 May 2016 at 02:21

NirK said:
Is there a kingpin 1080 tho? Was there a kingpin 980? Or are the kingpin only on the Ti cards?

Yes there was a 980 version, but they're usually announced at least a month after the rest (like Lightning and ROG Matrix).

If EVGA thinks there's a market for it, they'll make it, as simple as that.]

Personally I feel EVGA has too many models and makes things too confusing - I prefer MSI approach:
Entry level (Armor) - Enthusiast (with lame recycled cooler from the original 980): 8G - Crazy guy: Lightning.

Radox-0 · 30 May 2016 at 02:59

razorpakk said:
Yes there was a 980 version, but they're usually announced at least a month after the rest (like Lightning and ROG Matrix).

If EVGA thinks there's a market for it, they'll make it, as simple as that.]

Personally I feel EVGA has too many models and makes things too confusing - I prefer MSI approach:
Entry level (Armor) - Enthusiast (with lame recycled cooler from the original 980): 8G - Crazy guy: Lightning.

Amusingly the pcb and everything aside from the cooler on MSI's armor version is the same as the 8G model. http://videocardz.com/60547/comparison-of-custom-geforce-gtx-1080-pcbs

nashathedog · 30 May 2016 at 05:57

Purgatory said:
Classified better cooling and power circuitry normally. 1080 versions are a downgrade compared to previous gens.

Are Classifieds still binned or is it only Kingpin models now?

NirK · 30 May 2016 at 06:14

Purgatory said:
Classified better cooling and power circuitry normally. 1080 versions are a downgrade compared to previous gens.

Why are they a downgrade?

Simon Belmont · 30 May 2016 at 06:36

FTW and Classified both have dual bios. As others have said classified has lost the appeal do to kingpin getting all binned chips. Still FTW and Classified should be very close. I don't see the need to pay the extra £70 unless must have it or have the cash to do so. The FTW should do the same.

Purgatory · 30 May 2016 at 10:16

nashathedog said:
Are Classifieds still binned or is it only Kingpin models now?

Not binned but they seem to come with high ASIC a lot of the time. Only Kingpin are were binned with the 980ti's not sure what is happening with the pascal chips yet, but guessing they will not be binned.

Purgatory · 30 May 2016 at 10:18

NirK said:
Why are they a downgrade?

From the OP it states 10+2 phases, which is wrong so they are not a downgrade now I have seen the PCB they are as before 14+3 so all good with the classy versions of the 1080.

http://cdn.videocardz.com/1/2016/05/EVGA-GTX-1080-CLASSIFIED-PCB.jpg

beany_bot · 30 May 2016 at 10:38

Kind of hilarious so many enthusiasts spend extra money buying a faster clocked card...and then proceed to overclock it further....

Just buy the cheapest card with a good cooler and clock it yourself! why pay EVGA 100 quid to stick an extra 50Mhz on your card lol. I thought we were overclockers no??

elfoscuro · 30 May 2016 at 10:48

beany_bot said:
Kind of hilarious so many enthusiasts spend extra money buying a faster clocked card...and then proceed to overclock it further....

Just buy the cheapest card with a good cooler and clock it yourself! why pay EVGA 100 quid to stick an extra 50Mhz on your card lol. I thought we were overclockers no??

1 8 pin connector (reference one) against 2 plus material and more phases it's the difference, plus dual bios. so if you want to really oc this card to the limit you are going to need this.

triss · 30 May 2016 at 10:48

Purgatory said:
Not binned but they seem to come with high ASIC a lot of the time. Only Kingpin are were binned with the 980ti's not sure what is happening with the pascal chips yet, but guessing they will not be binned.

Unless they are being binned not sure why they would come with a higher Asic then lower ranged cards

Radox-0 · 30 May 2016 at 10:48

beany_bot said:
Kind of hilarious so many enthusiasts spend extra money buying a faster clocked card...and then proceed to overclock it further....

Just buy the cheapest card with a good cooler and clock it yourself! why pay EVGA 100 quid to stick an extra 50Mhz on your card lol. I thought we were overclockers no??

What card is EVGA doing that on?

Only see the basic SC which is cheaper then Founders but based on reference board with their ACX 3.0 slapped on. FTW which is custom PCB and still cheaper then founders, then the Classified which uses a more beefed up custom version of the PCB used in the FTW edition and TBA clocks.

If the difference was solely mhz then yeah I would agree, but its not and there are some differences, even if they are small, there will always people who want the best chance of the attaining the highest speeds.

Purgatory · 30 May 2016 at 10:59

beany_bot said:
Kind of hilarious so many enthusiasts spend extra money buying a faster clocked card...and then proceed to overclock it further....

Just buy the cheapest card with a good cooler and clock it yourself! why pay EVGA 100 quid to stick an extra 50Mhz on your card lol. I thought we were overclockers no??

Better power circuitry + better cooling + a higher chance of a better ASIC GPU + backplate too. All adds up to better performance for your money in most cases, but can be a lottery sometimes. Also I think some work out better value because you don't have to buy a backplate and the fans are normally higher quality and quieter. Also they normally look nicer too.

Just a note on the new EXGA cooler style, I don't like it. The 980ti classy style was better. Food for thought for EVGA Rep. Hoping they drop this look when the 1080ti classy comes out or Volta.

Gregster · 30 May 2016 at 11:50

beany_bot said:
Kind of hilarious so many enthusiasts spend extra money buying a faster clocked card...and then proceed to overclock it further....

Just buy the cheapest card with a good cooler and clock it yourself! why pay EVGA 100 quid to stick an extra 50Mhz on your card lol. I thought we were overclockers no??

Kind of hilarious that you make a statement like that and a couple of days ago you was asking how to overclock your card lmao.

whyscotty · 30 May 2016 at 11:52

Gregster said:
Kind of hilarious that you make a statement like that and a couple of days ago you was asking how to overclock your card lmao.

NirK · 30 May 2016 at 14:46

Purgatory said:
Better power circuitry + better cooling + a higher chance of a better ASIC GPU + backplate too. All adds up to better performance for your money in most cases, but can be a lottery sometimes. Also I think some work out better value because you don't have to buy a backplate and the fans are normally higher quality and quieter. Also they normally look nicer too.

Just a note on the new EXGA cooler style, I don't like it. The 980ti classy style was better. Food for thought for EVGA Rep. Hoping they drop this look when the 1080ti classy comes out or Volta.

The 1080 classified has same power phases 14+3, newer improved heatsink, new backplate, no difference in chance of ASIC, RGB led etc. so not sure what you are on about with that, yes aesthetics are opinion, but other than that it looks the same or better.

andybird123 · 30 May 2016 at 15:12

Gregster said:
Kind of hilarious that you make a statement like that and a couple of days ago you was asking how to overclock your card lmao.

Its kind of telling that the guy that doesnt even know how to overclock is criticising the guys who've been doing it for years and think they recognise the potential benefits of double the phases and double the power connectors, given the evidence shown so far.

Kaapstad · 30 May 2016 at 15:35

beany_bot said:
Kind of hilarious so many enthusiasts spend extra money buying a faster clocked card...and then proceed to overclock it further....

Just buy the cheapest card with a good cooler and clock it yourself! why pay EVGA 100 quid to stick an extra 50Mhz on your card lol. I thought we were overclockers no??

You have obviously never used anything like a Kingpin card.

Apart from the obvious that it is very good for LN2 benching, it's real benefit for end users is as the ultimate gaming card on air.

With a binned ASIC and fantastic cooler it runs very cool and quiet on air.

If EVGA do a version for the 1080 it will pull some massive overclocks on stock volts (because of the binned high ASIC).

Some people even like the appearance of them too.

Simon Belmont · 30 May 2016 at 15:36

Purgatory said:
EXGA cooler style, I don't like it. The 980ti classy style was better. Food for thought for EVGA Rep. Hoping they drop this look when the 1080ti classy comes out or Volta.

I really like it myself. If I didn't I would've went for something else, but imho the 2.0 cooler was so plain jane.. This one looks stylish. I guess everyone has a favourite.

DAIR · 30 May 2016 at 17:01

Ive ordered the FTW edition.... Along with the Acer Predator X34

Good Lord...

NirK · 30 May 2016 at 18:13

DAIR said:
Ive ordered the FTW edition.... Along with the Acer Predator X34

Good Lord...

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