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ISIL, ISIS, Daesh discussion thread.
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Do you always ask rhetorical questions?
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Nvm.
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A few Syrian Army.... 62 dead and 100 injured under a sustained and co-ordinated effort with the help of ISIS, but yeah, just "a few". Time to pull your head out of the sand. We've had in the last week ISIS commanders saying the US provides weapons and materiel and tactical information. We have Syria claiming they have intercepted communication between ISIS and their friends the US.
We now have evidence coming through that the US uses Turkey as a staging post to transport weapons and other things.
Why would the West bomb Raqqa? Their allies are there (ISIS).
This is becoming increasingly apparent to any who use news sources other than the BBC.
Soldato
Its part of their strategy. It limits their casualty rates. Even if one is killed it can and is often reported (at least here) as a civilian death.
Nope, there is no evidence of Russian involvement. There is however video footage showing ISIS fighters (a technical) alongside the aid convoy. There is no evidence of bombs being dropped and the accusation of barrel bombs, well they must be guided.
The event was likely done by ISIS and is a very useful distraction to the US event killing "just a few" (62) Syrian soldiers under a prolonged attack done in conjunction with ISIS (evidence pending release by Syria)
That's far from clear actually. The evidence points more towards the US backing ISIS than trying to beat them. The US supply them. If you don't believe it or say they are liars, you can head over to Syria and tell the ISIS commander that he was wrong when he said "the US provides us with weapons".
You also conveniently forget the involvement of Turkey in the supply of money, weapons and aid to ISIS. There were pictures and videos showed by Russia showing Turkey allowing oil from ISIS going into Turkey and being paid for. They even found documents showing sales of oil stamped by the Turkish Oil Ministry.
Yemen. Its British and US bombs from US planes falling and killing thousands there. Not a sniff on BBC.
I wish it were true, but we would beguile ourselves too easily and would both be complicit of idiocy if we genuinely believed that.
Especially if yanks are in the warzone.
You certainly find out in western media when they stuff up that's for sure.
Russian line is to deny deny deny despite the evidence to the contrary.
Soldato
Who state what? Odd how the incident happened in tandem with an ISIS assault and the trucks show no signs of bomb damage (which even if small would leave mangled wrecks)
Best take it up with him. He admitted while they were receiving US weapons and tactical guidance and training through third parties they now needed more TOW missiles sending. Odd that they are able to use an advanced piece of US kit. ISIS is an umbrella for many groups fighting in Syria, al-Nusra being just one quartet.
That's fine, so now ask yourself if the Turks are happy trying to eliminate the Kurds and ISIS are also doing the same... Where do you think some US weapons might just end up?
Turkey is a very unknown quantity and I was very disappointed Russia allow them back into a fold given what happened.
To progress, my belief is and always has been the utter destruction of ISIS and then an orderly transition by Al Assad. The problem is who will the new government be friendly to? Washington or Moscow? Conditions are back for a perfect storm.
Soldato
Again, not entirely accurate. They might get a mention. But certainly they don't have a week in the news.
Show some proof of this as it is exactly opposite what has just happened in Syria with the barbaric yanks lying and repeatedly being caught out lying about their coordinated illegal attack on the Syrian army then faking a non existent Russian attack on a un convoy Russia was trying to get through against the wishes of the soddy mercenaries.
Buuuut the totally controlled by NUTO and the corporatists western media is backing up the yank lies as they are now obliged to by law embarrassingly contrary to all the evidence and proofs just like happened when the ukie fascist forces downed mh17.
Hahahhahahahhahahaha!
Sorry but actual lols here! you're bloody brilliant humour you
do you leave the house much? I'd love to have you over for entertainment.(serious note : agenda seekers here still up in arms over military dying in a military environment and not at all over innocent civilians in Aleppo. What utterly disgusting forum members we have).
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Not necessarily. Low yield weapons don't necessarily result in mangled wrecks. Do you actually have any weaponeering knowledge?Good job General thep02 is here, sharing his superior knowledge eh!
Defo superior to your knowledge anime cod.
Oh my, you're actually mental.
Soldato
Hahahhahahahhahahaha!
Sorry but actual lols here! you're bloody brilliant humour you
(serious note : agenda seekers here still up in arms over military dying in a military environment and not at all over innocent civilians in Aleppo. What utterly disgusting forum members we have).
Funny, I have the same laugh at you
"a few"... What's that? Your drink driving excuse to a copper? Lulz.Well here is where you revert to troll mode... Or ignorance mode (likely)... it was during a ceasefire. Remind us who you support again Robo? The US hospital bombers of course.
Not first hand or a degree in explosives but having seen more than enough pictures and footage of what even a small payload missile can do to a car (eg a rocket) or we can go smaller and say an RPG, then you see the aid convoy is comparatively minus being set ablaze showing no evidence of explosive elements.
Odd how the aerial footage of the convoy is from a Russian drone?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...-airstrike-in-aleppo-minutes-after-end-of-ce/
A survivor talking about the continuous aerial bombardment.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ous-the-rescue-teams-werent-even-able-to-work
If it was local militants who attacked them do you not think the surviving UN/red crescent members would say so? After nearly being killed and watching their colleagues get blown to bits?
No doubt some of the trucks caught light from ensuing fire but that's certainly not evidence there wasn't bombing.
Two hospitals hit simultaneously. Ergo deliberate.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/09/air-strikes-put-aleppo-hospitals-service-160928102656036.html
Was that the Yanks thep?! Possibly in your world.
Almost 100 children killed by the indiscriminate bombing since Friday according to UNICEF
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/aleppo-hospital-1.3781938
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Soldato
Even more evidence then that ISIS were aware of the aid convoy.
Agenda? This part made me laugh:
Your Guardian Link said:
In other words, we have no evidence but regardless Russia IS responsible because we say so.
Evidence it was Russia? Western medias say so?
Who knows?
Again, disgusting.
I'll use my old and valid methodology to close this one out: Who started this mess? Yes, the US. Who provides ISIS with weapons and "accidental" aid drops, lulz
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