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AMD Ryzen 3 3300X Quad Core 4.3GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail @ £113.99 inc VAT https://www.overclockers.co.uk/AMD-...Hz-Socket-AM4-Processor-Retail-CP-3C0-AM.html


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Stock due next week! :)
 
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AMD Ryzen 3 3300X Quad Core 4.3GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail @ £113.99 inc VAT


100-100000159BOX, 4 Core with 8 Threads, 4.30GHz clock speed, 7nm FinFet Process, 18MB L3 Cache, Dual Channel DDR4 Controller, 3200-3600MHz RAM Recommended, 3 Year Warranty
Only £113.99 inc VAT.
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AMD Ryzen 3 3100 Quad Core 3.9GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail @ £94.99 inc VAT


100-100000284BOX, 4 Core with 8 Threads, 3.90GHz clock speed, 7nm FinFet Process, 18MB L3 Cache, Dual Channel DDR4 Controller, 3200-3600MHz RAM Recommended, 3 Year Warranty
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Stock due next week! :)
Cracking CPUs :cool:

@Gibbo any update on the Ripped Edition 8Pack RAM?
 
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AMD Ryzen 3 3300X Quad Core 4.3GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail @ £113.99 inc VAT


100-100000159BOX, 4 Core with 8 Threads, 4.30GHz clock speed, 7nm FinFet Process, 18MB L3 Cache, Dual Channel DDR4 Controller, 3200-3600MHz RAM Recommended, 3 Year Warranty
Only £113.99 inc VAT.
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AMD Ryzen 3 3100 Quad Core 3.9GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail @ £94.99 inc VAT


100-100000284BOX, 4 Core with 8 Threads, 3.90GHz clock speed, 7nm FinFet Process, 18MB L3 Cache, Dual Channel DDR4 Controller, 3200-3600MHz RAM Recommended, 3 Year Warranty
Only £94.99 inc VAT.
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Stock due next week! :)

Cracking CPUs :cool:

@Gibbo any update on the Ripped Edition 8Pack RAM?

Yeah AMD are really knocking it out the park with these....:cool:
 
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I’m sure if you can keep the Vcore low they will be just fine.
My 3800x holds me back over 1.35 as the chip can’t dissipate the heat in stress tests avx especially! But with 1.28/1.3 was much cooler I expect this intel will be the same

Had to drag your post here as we were going out of subject to the other discussion.

a) All core overclock on Ryzen 3000 is good if you render 24/7, but if you use light load application (including gaming) you need to leave it default and use XFR, PBO or one of the custom power plans. You lose a good 10% gaming performance to boot
b) Over 1.27 all core overclock is only advised to good silicon eg 3800X. Anyone over 1.28v might see silicon degradation at 100% loads after 7-9 months. Already some reporting the issue who listened to muppets like Jay2Cents manually forcing 1.35v because the auto 1.5v was "too much" without understanding 3 pages document from AMD. Which basically said the default 1.5v AMD has set, is ONLY for when the CPU is ordered to boost for a milisecond. And only when the current is very low.
c) If you are not lazy, like most of us, by using 1usmus, Community Powerplan, PBO etc, only with Ryzen Master per core overclock you will get the most out of your system.
On the 3800X there are reports for 2 cores hitting 4.7Ghz with auto voltage (which is safe) when done this way, and 3900X/3700X/3600X hitting 4650 easily. (my 3900X does 4625 with 1usmus). To put in perspective that's around 5.2Ghz on Intel equivalent CPU when gaming.
 
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Anandtech are being a bit unfair as it's a 1.2KG laptop and then proceeded to only use the Intel equivalent XPS13 for some tests. The rest of the tests were with bigger laptops!
Oh yes I agree, but it was a fair comment. Not about raw temps but about the clocks bouncing around due to thermals in sustained. The early feedback for the lenovo looks better in this regards albeit still toasty in performance mode. That is what I was referring to. Id like the chassis to be able to sustain rather than having to throttle due to heat, even if only at 15w not 25w :)
 
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What do you do for per core OC, just raise clocks per core on auto voltage and test each core?

Yes. There are plenty of videos how to do per core overclock. However as said, using preffered cores etc settings and 1usmus I get most from my CPU within 100mhz of whats possible to do if I try to do the painful way.

There are more gains to spend that time working to make your RAM work 3800C14, 3866C16/14 RAM with tight timings.
 
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Yes. There are plenty of videos how to do per core overclock. However as said, using preffered cores etc settings and 1usmus I get most from my CPU within 100mhz of whats possible to do if I try to do the painful way.

There are more gains to spend that time working to make your RAM work 3800C14, 3866C16/14 RAM with tight timings.

According to Linus Tech video, per core isn't really recommended, it might seem like it works but apparently the CCX overrides it to the lowest core sped in that CCX as far as I can tell. And in terms of even doing a pr CCD overclock, 20Mhz difference? Doesn't seem worth it.
 
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Oh yes I agree, but it was a fair comment. Not about raw temps but about the clocks bouncing around due to thermals in sustained. The early feedback for the lenovo looks better in this regards albeit still toasty in performance mode. That is what I was referring to. Id like the chassis to be able to sustain rather than having to throttle due to heat, even if only at 15w not 25w :)

I think the BIOS issues were fair,but I wish they had kept the comparisons to similar sized laptops.
 
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There is a new dram calculator version out by the way. (1.7.1)

Mentions reworking of timings for bdie as well as work for 4 and 8 modules..

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I think this will be golden for a lot of people.

Having figured out manually what my ram will do at it's max finally this new dram calc is actually now telling me settings which I can tell visually are correct. Timings and voltage are in line with what I know that ram can do through manual tweaks.

Primary timings and voltage are spot on. But I think the secondaries are wrong as I just got an error during testing.
 
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I hope all the reports over the past few days of AMD planning to release a desktop version of the 4700U are true, that wouldn't just shake up the home server/DIY NAS market that would be like chucking it in a cement mixer :D
 
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However I need to ask this again.

Are people who are running more than 1800MHz fclk applying any additional voltage to achieve this or are your CPUs capable of achieving these speeds with no voltage tweaks?
 
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There is a new dram calculator version out by the way. (1.7.1)

Mentions reworking of timings for bdie as well as work for 4 and 8 modules..

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I think this will be golden for a lot of people.

Having figured out manually what my ram will do at it's max finally this new dram calc is actually now telling me settings which I can tell visually are correct. Timings and voltage are in line with what I know that ram can do through manual tweaks.
Cool. Will give this a whirl tomorrow with my 4*8
 
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