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Old 4th Feb 2014, 10:29   #1
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Question First build terrified!

Hello,

Long story short.

I don't normally have the money for this kind of build, was knocked off motorbike and got money from insurance gonna buy a PC.. there!

So im totally new to this but i am a gamer and love to play most games.

(currently: everquest next landmark alpha/Rust/ will be playing elite dangerous and star citizen)

This is over my budget and from lack of exp i just put everything i think i needed.

Please can you handsome and clever gentlemen show me any obvious errors in my quest to the gaming euphoria!!


- Corsair Graphite Series 230T Compact Mid Tower Case Windowed - Black (CC-9011042-WW)
- Stage 1 Intel: Overclock of CPU - 4.2GHz Overclock - Haswell K Edition Processors Only
- Intel Core i5-4670K 3.40GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail
- Akasa AK-CC4013EP01 Nero 3 V2 Premier CPU Cooler
- Asus Z87-PLUS Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard
- TeamGroup Vulcan RED 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 PC3-17100C11 2133MHz Dual Channel Kit (TLD316G2133HC11ADC01)
- Gigabyte GeForce GTX 780 WindForce 3x OC Rev2.0 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (GV-N780OC-3GD)
- Toshiba SSD HG5D Series THNSNH 7mm 60GB Solid State Hard Drive - (THNSNH060GCST)
- Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST2000DM001) HDD
- OcUK 20x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM
- No Sound Card Upgrade
- Corsair RM Series RM 750 '80+ Gold' 750W Power Supply (CP-9020055-UK)
- Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-Bit - OEM (FQC-08289)
- Networking Not Selected
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- Keyboard Not Selected
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- System Build Fan - Noiseblocker BlackSilent Pro Fan PLPS - 120mm PWM [EXNO-001]
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- No Headset Option (Zero Cost)
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- No Office Software
- No Security Software
- Standard Build Systems - Dispatched within 7 working days

£1,488.31 - Vat

£1,224.76
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Old 4th Feb 2014, 10:36   #2
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Dont order yet...wait for someone knowledgeable to have a look at your spec.

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Old 4th Feb 2014, 10:41   #3
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Welcome,

Is this a pre-built system or Building it yourself?

If this is just a gaming build you can make a few changes.

Firstly you won't need 16GB of RAM, get 8GB of 2000mhz+ RAM and that'll be great.

The PSU is OVER specced too, a 600W-650W PSU will be fine.

I'd also invest in a better CPU cooler, like the matterhorn or the 212,412..

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Old 4th Feb 2014, 10:43   #4
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+1 to Doomedspeed's advice.

Spend some of the savings mentioned above on a bigger SSD. 60gb isn't really big enough nowadays, I'd aim for at least 120gb.


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Old 4th Feb 2014, 10:56   #5
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+1 to Doomedspeed's advice.

Spend some of the savings mentioned above on a bigger SSD. 60gb isn't really big enough nowadays, I'd aim for at least 120gb.
Yeah you definitely want more than 60GB, I would even say that 120GB can start getting a bit small once you install windows, office, and a handful of big games, seeing as a lot of games are hitting 15 GB a pop these days!

Having said that I do have quite a few MMO's installed and that might be why I'm running low on space :P
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Old 4th Feb 2014, 10:58   #6
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I am building this myself thank you for the great advice!

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Welcome,

Is this a pre-built system or Building it yourself?

If this is just a gaming build you can make a few changes.

Firstly you won't need 16GB of RAM, get 8GB of 2000mhz+ RAM and that'll be great.

The PSU is OVER specced too, a 600W-650W PSU will be fine.

I'd also invest in a better CPU cooler, like the matterhorn or the 212,412..
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Old 4th Feb 2014, 10:58   #7
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As already said, if I was spending that much Id probably want a 250ssd, its surprising how quickly you fill it.

And yes ram prices are fairly high currently and 16gig is an overkill nice to have if you can get it cheap.

Good CPU and GPU though and will be a great system once its tweaked a little.

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Old 4th Feb 2014, 10:59   #8
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AH more good advice much appreciated!

see this is why i posted, i knew there was going to be awesome people like yourselves

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+1 to Doomedspeed's advice.

Spend some of the savings mentioned above on a bigger SSD. 60gb isn't really big enough nowadays, I'd aim for at least 120gb.
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Old 4th Feb 2014, 11:00   #9
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Oh if its a self build you can probably make a 4770k system for that price, or get a 4670K cheaper. I thought you were using the configurator and having it built.

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Old 4th Feb 2014, 11:01   #10
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16 gig overkill? fair enough, i currently only have 4gb of ddr2. 250gb sd sounds like a better idea that 60gb.. don't know what i was thinking really..


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As already said, if I was spending that much Id probably want a 250ssd, its surprising how quickly you fill it.

And yes ram prices are fairly high currently and 16gig is an overkill nice to have if you can get it cheap.

Good CPU and GPU though and will be a great system once its tweaked a little.
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Old 4th Feb 2014, 11:03   #11
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im using the configurator just to make sure everything works with each other
then ill buy everything separately.


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Oh if its a self build you can probably make a 4770k system for that price, or get a 4670K cheaper. I thought you were using the configurator and having it built.
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Old 4th Feb 2014, 11:29   #12
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What's your budget? I'll sure some of the regulars can spec something up for you
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Old 4th Feb 2014, 11:41   #13
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YOUR BASKET
1 x Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 OC WindForce 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (GV-R929OC-4GD) £379.99
1 x Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - OEM £249.95
1 x Samsung 250GB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TE250BW) £149.99
1 x Corsair Carbide 540 High Airflow ATX Cube Case - Black (CC-9011030-WW) £129.95
1 x Gigabyte G1.Sniper Z87 Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £119.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-Bit - OEM (FQC-08289) £109.99
1 x Corsair Hydro H105 Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler (CW-9060016-WW ) £93.95
1 x Avexir Venom Series 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-17200C9 2133MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (AVD3U21330904G-2CIG) - Green Light £79.99
1 x SuperFlower Golden Green HX 550W "80 Plus Gold" Power Supply - Black £59.99
1 x Toshiba 2TB 7200RPM SATA 6GB/s 32MB Cache - OEM (DT01ACA200) HDD £59.99
1 x Corsair AF120 Performance Series Low Noise High Airflow - Dual Pack (CO-9050004-WW) £25.99
1 x Samsung SE-S208DB/TSBS External Slimline 8x DVD-RW (TV Connect) - Black £21.98
Total : £1,496.75 (includes shipping : £12.50).



Same price... WAYYYY better PC :P you could swap out the GPU for the 780 if you're an Nvidea fan... but the rest of the stuff is a lot better than what is in your spec. i7, faster ram, better CPU cooler, bigger SSD, better case (also better looking imo), more suitable PSU...

i5 3570k @ 4.5, Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD5H,
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Old 4th Feb 2014, 11:45   #14
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I'll spec something up - give me a few mins

EDIT: Ah Beardy beat me to it! I'll spec an alternative just for fun

i7 4790K@4.7GHz | Gigabyte G1 Z97X Gaming 7 | Gigabyte G1 GTX 970@1500/8000 | 8GB G.Skill DDR3 2400MHz@9.11.11.31 | 240GB Kingston SSD RAID0 | NZXT Phantom | H100 paired with 2x Scythe GT's
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Old 4th Feb 2014, 12:02   #15
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Nice spec Beardy but just out of interest why the external DVD drive?
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Old 4th Feb 2014, 12:10   #16
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I know its not the best case for cooling... but god damn it is shmexy
You could swap the GLH 780 for a reference cooled 780 which will help with proper airflow, or go for a 780ti ref for a little more ;D

YOUR BASKET
1 x Gainward GeForce GTX 780 Phantom GLH 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £399.95
1 x Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - OEM £249.95
1 x In-Win 904 Mid Tower Case - Silver £149.99
1 x Samsung 250GB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TE250BW) £149.99
1 x Gigabyte Z87X-SLI Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £104.99
1 x Corsair Vengeance Pro Silver 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-17100C9 2133MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (CMY8GX3M2B2133C9) £89.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 3TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST3000DM001) HDD £85.99
1 x SuperFlower Golden Green HX 650W "80 Plus Gold" Power Supply - Black £73.99
1 x Be Quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3 CPU Cooler £69.95
Total : £1,392.48 (includes shipping : £14.75).

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Old 4th Feb 2014, 12:16   #17
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I have 16GB of RAM and a 256GB SSD, my SSD only has 75GB left, and I quite often use more than 8GB of RAM, but most people won't.

It depends entirely on what the system will be used for.

So... What is your use-case? What will you be using the system for other than for gaming? Do you plan on running any VM's or using a RAM disk? Do you only want your OS on the SSD, or ALL of your programs as well like me? etc...

Anyways, I can't do a basket spec as I'm at work but here is an idea...

CPU: 4770K
Mobo: G1.Sniper Z87 (for the superb featureset at the pricepoint) otherwise a Z87-D3HP/UD3 etc
RAM - 8GB of 2666MHz TeamGroup LV (great value - unless of course you want/need 16GB)
SSD: 120/250GB Samsung 840 Evo (the default choice for price to performance to reliability at present)
HDD: HDD of whatever capacity you feel you need
GPU: 780/780TI/290/290X (read some reviews and use Anandtech Bench GPU14 and GPU13 to compare - I'd get a 780 personally)
PSU: 650W - 750W Superflower/Seasonic/Enermax (I'd personally get a 650W Golden Green - unless you want SLI/Crossfire in the future)
ODD: External! (I guarentee it will live in a drawer most of the time)
Case: Mostly personal choice, though some are better than others for build quality/airflow etc. DO NOT buy that INWIN shown above.
Cooling: A big air heatsink such as the NH-D14 or the equivelant from the likes of Phanteks, Thermaltake etc (I like the Silver Arrow B&W)


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Ok here is my spec - a slightly cheaper alternative to the i7 builds above, also with a black/red theme if that might be your thing Case is not in stock until the end of the month but I think it looks very nice so included it anyway:

YOUR BASKET
1 x MSI Radeon R9 290 Gaming Edition 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £359.99
1 x Intel Core i5-4670K 3.40GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £191.99
1 x Gigabyte Z87X-UD4H Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard with *FREE COOLERMASTER SEIDON 120V COOLER £163.99
1 x Samsung 250GB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TE250BW) £149.99
1 x NZXT H440 Mid Tower Case - Black £94.99
1 x Corsair Dominator GT 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-14900C9 1866MHz Dual Channel Kit with DHX Pro Connector (CMT8GX3M2A1866C9) **SPECIAL** £89.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-Bit DVD - OEM (WN7-00614) £74.99
1 x SuperFlower Golden Green HX 550W "80 Plus Gold" Power Supply - Black £59.99
1 x Toshiba 2TB 7200RPM SATA 6GB/s 32MB Cache - OEM (DT01ACA200) HDD £59.99
1 x Pioneer 24x Internal DVR-221LBK DVD Rewriter - OEM £14.99
Total : £1,275.89 (includes shipping : £12.50).



EDIT: Went with Windows 8.1 (non-pro) to save a bit, and it's faster than Windows 7 in terms of gaming. Also the mobo includes an AIO watercooling unit which should be ideal.

i7 4790K@4.7GHz | Gigabyte G1 Z97X Gaming 7 | Gigabyte G1 GTX 970@1500/8000 | 8GB G.Skill DDR3 2400MHz@9.11.11.31 | 240GB Kingston SSD RAID0 | NZXT Phantom | H100 paired with 2x Scythe GT's
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Old 4th Feb 2014, 12:49   #20
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you guys are awesome gonna take me a bit to read through all these posts ill report back.
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I went for the external OD because it just looks a bit nicer :P I always feel an OD ruins the look of the case...

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I went for the external OD because it just looks a bit nicer :P I always feel an OD ruins the look of the case...
Fair enough
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I went for the external OD because it just looks a bit nicer :P I always feel an OD ruins the look of the case...
+1 agreed. You could always stealth the ODD though.
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1 x Powercolor Radeon R9 290 PCS+ OC 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £359.99
1 x Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - OEM £249.95
1 x Gigabyte Z87X-OC Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £158.99
1 x Samsung 250GB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TE250BW) £149.99
1 x Antec High Current Gamer 850W Modular '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply (0-761345-06225-1) £125.99
1 x NZXT H440 Mid Tower Case - White £94.99
1 x Avexir Core Orange Series 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-17200C9 2133MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (AVD3U21330904G-2CIO) - Orange Light £79.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-Bit DVD - OEM (WN7-00614) £74.99
1 x Toshiba 2TB 7200RPM SATA 6GB/s 32MB Cache - OEM (DT01ACA200) HDD £59.99
1 x Thermalright Silver Arrow SB-E SE CPU Cooler TY-143 Fans £59.99
1 x BitFenix Alchemy Cable Bundle - Orange £28.45
1 x Samsung SE-S208DB/TSBS External Slimline 8x DVD-RW (TV Connect) - Black £21.98
2 x NZXT FZ-140 Airflow Fan Series, Orange LED - 140mm £12.98 (£25.96)
1 x NZXT CB-LED10-WT 12x White LED Sleeve - 1m £9.98
1 x BitFenix Alchemy SATA 6GB/s braided cable 30cm - White £5.99
1 x BitFenix Alchemy Molex to 3pin x3 Fan adaptor 7V 20cm - Orange £4.99
1 x BitFenix Alchemy Internal Audio Extension Adaptor 30cm - White £4.49
4 x BitFenix Alchemy 2pin I/O extension 30cm - White £3.95 (£15.80)
Total : £1,547.50 (includes shipping : £12.50).

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I wouldn't go for the 290X, not worth the price difference from the 290 -> 290x for the performance difference.

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I wouldn't go for the 290X, not worth the price difference from the 290 -> 290x for the performance difference.
+1 from someone that owns a 290, the difference between the pair is marginal at best, waste of extra cash tbh.

Would definitely fit a 4770k and a 290 into the build, loving the NZXT case too.
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Put together a black and red themed, you can add braided cables also for a bit extra, oh forgot to add a DvDRW they are like £15-20

YOUR BASKET
1 x Powercolor Radeon R9 290 PCS+ OC 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £359.99
1 x Intel Core i7-4770K 3.50GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £269.99
1 x Samsung 250GB SSD 840 EVO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7TE250BW) £149.99
1 x MSI Z87-G45 Gaming Series Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £124.99
1 x Seasonic G series 750w '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply £99.95
1 x NZXT H440 Mid Tower Case - Black £94.99
1 x TeamGroup Vulcan RED 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-19200C11 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit (TLD38G2400HC11CDC01) £71.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST2000DM001) HDD £65.99
1 x Alpenföhn K2 Mount Doom CPU Cooler £49.99
Total : £1,310.78 (includes shipping : £19.10).

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Next gen consoles are here now with 8GB onboard RAM, and 64 bit builds will soon be the norm for PC games. I'd be looking at 16GB frankly. EQ landmark is 64bit for instance.

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Next gen consoles are here now with 8GB onboard RAM, and 64 bit builds will soon be the norm for PC games. I'd be looking at 16GB frankly. EQ landmark is 64bit for instance.
I think it's still recognised that 8gb is more than enough for a decent gaming rig right now, most have 8gb and it works well for all. If it's not enough, could always add 8gb more?

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