5800x3D upgrade

WildgooseUK · 31 Mar 2023 at 09:52

Am looking to upgrade my current 3700x to an 5800x3D, but my only concern whether this will work on my MSI Tomahawk B450 non-max MB. Do you know if this does ? thank you

Skilid · 31 Mar 2023 at 10:03

Have you checked the support page for your product? A quick Google says your board can support it if you upgrade to BIOS version 7C02v1I.

Support page: https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B450-TOMAHAWK/support#bios

Compatibility checker: https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B450-TOMAHAWK/support#cpu

deshepherd · 31 Mar 2023 at 10:20

I'm in a similar position considering an upgrade from a 3700. I've got a Asus B350f gaming motherboard - various articles show that this does support a drop in upgrade to 5800x3d but while it is possible is the B350 missing too many features that the next couple of generations of chipsets added? Or is planning a full upgrade to AM5 the better option.

WildgooseUK · 31 Mar 2023 at 10:22

Many thanks for that Skilid. I believe have updated my BIOS to the version you mentioned. Will check of course but am pretty sure. Am aiming to upgrade to get more out mainly FS2020 which I spend most of my free time. So, 3700x to an 5800x3D and planning switching my GTX 1070 to an RTX 2070s at 1440p

DatV8 · 31 Mar 2023 at 10:35

I upgraded from a 3600X and it's a definite improvement in minimum FPS, games feel smoother.

First thing to do if you get one also is the PBO undervolt which reduces temps/noise slightly. I think it's called Kombo Strike on MSI boards and is a simple toggle switch it the BIOS.

Capitano · 31 Mar 2023 at 10:36

check the support to see if its compatible, you will need to do a bios upgrade to your motherboard though

Joxeon · 31 Mar 2023 at 11:23

It'll work fine, just update to the latest bios.

Orcvader · 31 Mar 2023 at 14:28

deshepherd said:
I'm in a similar position considering an upgrade from a 3700. I've got a Asus B350f gaming motherboard - various articles show that this does support a drop in upgrade to 5800x3d but while it is possible is the B350 missing too many features that the next couple of generations of chipsets added? Or is planning a full upgrade to AM5 the better option.

Apart from PCIe 4 only other thing I can think of is PBO2, but for X3D it's usually not available. Although some recent boards have had an update allowing you to undervolt with curve optimiser, but no idea if that's present for the B350.

varkanoid · 31 Mar 2023 at 22:16

Orcvader said:
Apart from PCIe 4 only other thing I can think of is PBO2, but for X3D it's usually not available. Although some recent boards have had an update allowing you to undervolt with curve optimiser, but no idea if that's present for the B350.

This is the go to page for PBO2 no matter what your motherboard with the 5800x3D.

How-to-undervolt-AMD-RYZEN-5800X3D-Guide-with-PBO2-Tuner/README.md at main · PrimeO7/How-to-undervolt-AMD-RYZEN-5800X3D-Guide-with-PBO2-Tuner

Get the Most out of your 5800X3D using PBO Curve Optimizer! - PrimeO7/How-to-undervolt-AMD-RYZEN-5800X3D-Guide-with-PBO2-Tuner

github.com

Tetras · 31 Mar 2023 at 22:18

deshepherd said:
I'm in a similar position considering an upgrade from a 3700. I've got a Asus B350f gaming motherboard - various articles show that this does support a drop in upgrade to 5800x3d but while it is possible is the B350 missing too many features that the next couple of generations of chipsets added? Or is planning a full upgrade to AM5 the better option.

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StephenJ · 4 Apr 2023 at 16:32

Will work fine if you have a bios that supports the 5800x3d and also cooling that's good enough for the swap

faceman123 · 4 Apr 2023 at 16:36

beautiful upgrade. one of the fruits of investing in AMD essentially top tier gaming performance years down the road.

WildgooseUK · 5 Apr 2023 at 11:07

Have successfully obtained an Nvidia own RTX2070 Super which due to arrive tomorrow. Now seeking to upgrade to an 5800x3D in a few weeks time

WildgooseUK · 6 Apr 2023 at 13:14

Think my current PSU is struggling as the PC shut itself down when playing FS2020 with my RTX2070 Super. Its a Superflower 550W

faceman123 · 6 Apr 2023 at 15:15

WildgooseUK said:
Think my current PSU is struggling as the PC shut itself down when playing FS2020 with my RTX2070 Super. Its a Superflower 550W

~~whats the rest of your spec?~~ 3700x and 2070s should be ok on a 550w superflower - Are you sure it's not the card? how old is the PSU

StephenJ · 6 Apr 2023 at 17:04

WildgooseUK said:
Think my current PSU is struggling as the PC shut itself down when playing FS2020 with my RTX2070 Super. Its a Superflower 550W

Do you have any monitoring software you could run to show power draw etc ?

Boomstick777 · 6 Apr 2023 at 19:13

5800X3D is an absolute beast, gaming performance VS power consumption is still top of the charts. Def worth getting if you can.

Nobski · 6 Apr 2023 at 19:21

Hi,
have a 5800x3d with MSI B450 Tomahawk Max working very well, gpu RTX3090, so you will be fine
:cool:

Psu Corsair Rm850x

WildgooseUK · 7 Apr 2023 at 06:01

faceman123 said:
~~whats the rest of your spec?~~ 3700x and 2070s should be ok on a 550w superflower - Are you sure it's not the card? how old is the PSU

The card is fine as played other games which ran well. Is just FS2020 at the moment. My PSU is over 7 yrs old. Ran Afterburner and shown that Power drawn exceeded over 81% when playing FS2020

faceman123 · 7 Apr 2023 at 07:16

WildgooseUK said:
The card is fine as played other games which ran well. Is just FS2020 at the moment. My PSU is over 7 yrs old. Ran Afterburner and shown that Power drawn exceeded over 81% when playing FS2020

Ah k yeah 7 years I believe it degrages at a few percent per year, whilst the wattage is not the issue the age might be, in that case is recommend a good 850w with some leg room for future GPU upgrades