AMD Launches Three Kaveri APU SKUs in February 2014 – Feature Set For A10 and A8 APUs Detailed

[Legion]

1080P gaming is out of the question.

Lack of bandwidth is seriously hampering what the iGPU can do.
I'm interested to see if there's any decent gains at DDR3 2400-2800 (if any board will clock memory that high) at tight timings.
We've already seen DDR3 2133 scores and as I already thought, it's not too good.

 

[Davedree]

So am i if Kaveri ends up trash.

We need competition against Intel, even those who have no intention of buying an AMD CPU.

Constantly lagging 40% behind Intel in IPC is no competition, if those slides are true this will be the 3'rd or 4'th AMD architecture that has all but 0 performance increase.

I know AMD are no longer aiming for the performance market, but even the APU market will not accept continuing upgrades that are no upgrades.
its just repeating the same colossal mistake that lost them the performance market.

Based on leak info that isn't testing the apu's in a hsa envionment. Yes ok compare x86 performance between intel or amd previos gen, but don't forget about the hsa.
People need to readjust to cpu-gpu compute and its future, rather than just single thread performance or ipc increases on traditional software. Like we said on here though theres going to be a delay until software devs catch up, which currently means the transitional timing of amd paints kaveri in a bad light, as its primary architecture feature is not being used yet or leaked performance shown yet. Give it time and we'll see it scale

 

[Martini1991]

The problem is, we can only judge it as it currently is.
I saw in that review that someone was talking about "Lol, not reviewing with HSA" But that's currently impossible.

 

[stulid]

I have 2400Mhz RAM.

 

[ALXAndy]

The problem is, we can only judge it as it currently is.
I saw in that review that someone was talking about "Lol, not reviewing with HSA" But that's currently impossible.

AMD release a CPU that isn't supported yet? NEVAHHHHH

 

[Davedree]

I have 2400Mhz RAM.

What timings though? i 'd be suprised to see 20gbs bandwidth in gpuz, any hint of the bandwidth?

Edit 30gbs

 

[stulid]

What timings though? i 'd be suprised to see 20gbs bandwidth in gpuz, any hint of the bandwidth?

Edit 30gbs

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-135-KS&groupid=701&catid=8&subcat=1387

CAS11

 

[Davedree]

Not bad, 2133 c9 would have been better for the money, + overclock the ram a little
Not much in it once over a tight 1866 ram

 

[krooton]

Not bad, 2133 c9 would have been better for the money, + overclock the ram a little
Not much in it once over a tight 1866 ram

I thought that whilst tighter timings can make up for lack of bandwidth, in terms of how APUs use RAM, bandwidth is more important.

 

[stulid]

Not bad, 2133 c9 would have been better for the money, + overclock the ram a little
Not much in it once over a tight 1866 ram

I got 2133Mhz C9 Gskill Ares too. But its the Kingston fitted and testing with.

 

[Davedree]

I thought that whilst tighter timings can make up for lack of bandwidth, in terms of how APUs use RAM, bandwidth is more important.

Both apply but high rated ram and tight timings come at a premium, which is why slower cheaper ram with tighter timings will sometimes work out better value, especially when clocked.

Unless some magical ram can provide 100gbs, hat would then make almost acceptable 1080p. The 260x has 100gbs take a look at its performance

 

[humbug]

Its only really gaming that i'm interested in, Dave, TBH

Popularity of AMD APU's and sales with it has shot up in the last year, almost all of those sales are because they are cheap all in one systems, people buying them don't care or even know about Intel's IPC advantage.

I do know and know what effect it has on what i need it for, but i do understand i'm in the minority, as we all are.

The frustrating thing is the only place i can look is Intel, which are quite a lot more expensive, to expensive.

 

[Martini1991]

People don't care what's inside their PC, they just buy their PC.

 

[Davedree]

Not a lot more I can say humbug, except just wait for some reviews with people who know what they are doing. But prepare for possible disappinment in some areas.

 

[Martini1991]

I wonder how Intels next IGP will compare, AMD really need to do what Intel have done with the memory bandwidth.

 

[Davedree]

I wonder how Intels next IGP will compare, AMD really need to do what Intel have done with the memory bandwidth.

They have to work on their front end efficancy, then amd is pretty much irrelevant except price.

 

[Boomstick777]

AMD Kaveri A10-7850K and A10-7700K Packaging Pictured – BIOS Update On FM2+ Boards Compulsory

With just a few days left in launch, leaks regarding the AMD Kaveri A10-7850K and A10-7700K are pouring in from all corners of the internet. Japanese site Hermitage Akihabra has revealed the first pictures of the A10-7850 Box packaging which will be available on retail on Wednesday morning.

Read more: http://wccftech.com/amd-kaveri-a10-...s-update-fm2-boards-compulsory/#ixzz2q1cDFh9U

 

[Martini1991]

They have to work on their front end efficancy, then amd is pretty much irrelevant except price.

Ha.

You know, I'm always pessimistic of AMD, then bang, Kaveri, the hype starts, I allow myself to get sucked into it (The 7850 performance IGP and the rest of it although I expected more a 7750 than a 7850 ) and it seems it's going to disappoint for that

It's like when people game on Trinity at 1080p, all builds up the hype.

 

[stulid]

Started testing from scratch as I got newer drivers now.

You guys aren't interested in 1080p results are you and would prefer more "playable" settings?

 

[Martini1991]

1080p results would be nice to see, as Kaveri's been hyped as this all in one you can chuck under your full HD TV pretty much