Assange to go!

Hitman_Leon · 24 Feb 2011 at 11:46

He lost his extradition fight.

Wikileaks founder Julian Assange should be extradited to Sweden to face sexual assault allegations, a judge has ruled.

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Oh wonder how this will play out.

J-FRO · 24 Feb 2011 at 11:47

The case is going to have to be watched very closely.

Nobody can deny that the allegations are suspicious in relation to the timing of the release of confidential military documents.

Cosimo · 24 Feb 2011 at 11:49

He'll appeal and then be kicked out.

stockhausen · 24 Feb 2011 at 11:50

The 39-year-old denies three allegations of sexual assault and one of rape last August in Stockholm.

In the famous words of Mandy Rice-Davies, "Well, he would, wouldn't he?"

Berserker · 24 Feb 2011 at 11:53

Mr Assange says the claims are politically motivated because of the work of his whistle-blowing website.

Irrelevant.

During the hearing two weeks ago, Mr Assange's lawyer argued that rape trials in Sweden were regularly "tried in secret behind closed doors in a flagrant denial of justice".

Also irrelevant. It's not the court's business to judge the laws of another country (save persecution or similar - something rather unlikely in Sweden). Nice way not to improve your standing, nonetheless.

Geoffrey Robertson QC also said his client could later be extradited to the US on separate charges relating to Wikileaks, and could face the death penalty there.

That would be the jurisdiction of the Swedish courts, not ours. Irrelevant.

So the only case to answer is whether there is sufficient evidence to warrant the extradition in the first place. If there is (and the court obviously decided there was), then appeal denied!

MattTheTall77 · 24 Feb 2011 at 11:59

I'd happily ship him off to the US and save Sweden the hassle!

Efour · 24 Feb 2011 at 12:00

he will have a nasty accident and bump into a bullet soon.

cochoc · 24 Feb 2011 at 13:42

I'm not a legal expert, so can't comment on the technical apects of this ruling, but I know when something smells bad, and this whole "rape" thing stinks to high heaven.

Participant · 24 Feb 2011 at 13:47

cochoc said:
this whole "rape" thing stinks to high heaven.

Not if you do it right

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AGD · 24 Feb 2011 at 13:47

Berserker said:
Also irrelevant. It's not the court's business to judge the laws of another country (save persecution or similar - something rather unlikely in Sweden). Nice way not to improve your standing, nonetheless.

No. Completely relevant - you shouldn't extradite people to places where they will not get a fair trial. The judge obviously thought there wasn't evidence of that in this case though.

Berserker said:
That would be the jurisdiction of the Swedish courts, not ours. Irrelevant.

So the only case to answer is whether there is sufficient evidence to warrant the extradition in the first place. If there is (and the court obviously decided there was), then appeal denied!

Again quite relevant. You shouldn't extradite someone to somewhere where they might be in danger of torture or unfair trials. If extraditing to sweden would result in extradition to the us, this could be the case. Again the judge thought this scenario unlikely.

Let's wait to see what happens in the appeal.

Vonhelmet · 24 Feb 2011 at 13:48

cochoc said:
I'm not a legal expert, so can't comment on the technical apects of this ruling, but I know when something smells bad, and this whole "rape" thing stinks to high heaven.

You mean insofar as he was apparently so excited about becoming a high profile whistle blower that he promptly raped two women who then only decided to report the incidents when his name hit the big time?

Yeah, it does sound suspicious.

Brian8bit · 24 Feb 2011 at 13:50

America should be told to swing on a dick.

Castiel · 24 Feb 2011 at 13:52

vonhelmet said:
You mean insofar as he was apparently so excited about becoming a high profile whistle blower that he promptly raped two women who then only decided to report the incidents when his name hit the big time?

Yeah, it does sound suspicious.

So you think that he is innocent because he is famous?

Bottom line is that Sweden has a robust and fair justice system and if he has been accused of a crime then he should stand trial like anyone else.

If he is innocent or guilty is for thr Swedish court to decide on the evidence put to them.

The Running Man · 24 Feb 2011 at 13:52

Why didn't he just keep it in his pants? The entire episode really does discredit wiki leaks somewhat.

I don't know how guilt he is but he has clearly done something which isn't quite right.

meghatronic · 24 Feb 2011 at 13:53

Castiel said:
So you think that he is innocent because he is famous?

Bottom line is that Sweden has a robust and fair justice system and if he has been accused of a crime then he should stand trial like anyone else.

If he is innocent or guilty is for thr Swedish court to decide on the evidence put to them.

This.

And Berserker's post.

Being 'famous' does not give one a carte blanche. Ultimately, he's being a coward. This is Sweden, not North Korea.

Brian8bit · 24 Feb 2011 at 13:53

Nickg said:
Why didn't he just keep it in his pants? The entire episode really does discredit wiki leaks somewhat.

I don't know how guilt he is but he has clearly done something which isn't quite right.

Stuck his old chap in a man hating lesbian, then her friend who have a habit of crying raping.

Participant · 24 Feb 2011 at 13:53

The CIA are paying a few Swedish girls large amounts of cash to say he raped them.

Source: my bumhole.

The Running Man · 24 Feb 2011 at 13:54

Why didn't he just keep it in his pants? The entire episode really does discredit wiki leaks somewhat.

I don't know how guilt he is but he has clearly done something which isn't quite right.

TheCenturion · 24 Feb 2011 at 13:54

Brian8bit said:
America should be told to swing on a dick.

That's probably how all this started :eek:

Cosimo · 24 Feb 2011 at 13:57

Brian8bit said:
America should be told to swing on a dick.

Mr LeakyWiki will soon be going to that.

Assange to go!

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