Kitty held at Vets till bills paid, 'interest' added daily. Help?

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It is not unethical, it is perfectly reasonable. Normally no required but I have a hunch this isn't the first time this has happened, maybe not with the cat in question but if the vet has had many non-payments before and lost money then they will be forced to use such measure as standard. Probably some good discussions with the vet would help such a situation.

So you would be fine if a hospital imprisoned you until your cheque cleared? Running a business involves certain risks which you must fully accept when entering into the trade.

It is not theft, it is legal possession. The £20 a day will be a standard rate for housing a cat for a day is pretty cheap in comparison.

It doesn't cost me £20 a day to live, never mind a cat.
 
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Why compare it to a human, humans as we should have far far more rights.

Of course it costs you £20 a day to live. Rent on it's own is probably more than £10 a day + bills + food. And that's for a cheap way.
This is a specialised service with many over heads and trained vets.
 
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So you would be fine if a hospital imprisoned you until your cheque cleared? Running a business involves certain risks which you must fully accept when entering into the trade.
Humans and animals, apples and oranges. One has independent rights, the other is property.



never mind a cat.
And what qualifies you to say this? You'll be surprised just how expensive taking up a cage in a manned veterinary surgery is (more expensive per cage than in a veterinary hospital). It doesn't cost you £20 a day to live because you do not need to pay for business insurance, medical practitioner insurance. You do not need to pay staff to look after you. You do not need to rent or heat a business premise. You do not need to be fed and watered by someone else. You do not need to to have your mess cleaned up by someone.
 
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Whether it's legal or not it's not a nice thing to do. Sounds like money is far more important to the vet than the animals themselves. I know some people will say it's only a cat but it is a little life all the same.
Vets are not charities - they are businesses, so of course it is about the money.
 
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So you would be fine if a hospital imprisoned you until your cheque cleared? Running a business involves certain risks which you must fully accept when entering into the trade.



It doesn't cost me £20 a day to live, never mind a cat.

Humans are ot cats so any argument based on relating humans to cats is null and void.

You may be able to live for £20 a day, but I doubt you can live in a hotel, go out for meals 3 times a day, pay for someone to clean up your mess, and supervise your health conditions and safety 24 hours a day, have insurance and related running costs all covered for £20.

If you can, I would like to know all the details. Believe em, $20 a day is pretty cheap.
 
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Why compare it to a human, humans as we should have far far more rights.

Of course it costs you £20 a day to live. Rent on it's own is probably more than £10 a day + bills + food. And that's for a cheap way.
This is a specialised service with many over heads and trained vets.

Rent is £55 a week inclusive.

Humans are ot cats so any argument based on relating humans to cats is null and void.

Ethically it's the same.

You may be able to live for £20 a day, but I doubt you can live in a hotel, go out for meals 3 times a day, pay for someone to clean up your mess, and supervise your health conditions and safety 24 hours a day, have insurance and related running costs all covered for £20.

What hotel? It's a small cage with someone spooning out cat food, ridiculous analogy.
 
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Vets are not charities - they are businesses, so of course it is about the money.

Of course vets are a business; where in my post did I say vets were a charity? Like doctors (and a million other vocations), you can split vets into two groups: those that love animals and would be vets even if it paid 15k a year and those that are in it for the (good) salary. On the face of it, it sounds like this guy doesn't care for the cat's well-being, just that he gets paid.
 
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Rent is £55 a week inclusive.



Ethically it's the same.

Theu are renting well below national average, that was cheap a decade ago for student accomadation let alone now.


And not it is not morally the same.
Doesn't mean it's good but it is legal and should have insured they had the cash or talked to them about other methods and like everything check several companies out.
 
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The trouble is Vets aren't regulated and they're a bunch of greedy ******** really.

Take for example my partners Cat who passed away just before Christmas 2009, it still costed over £700 for blood tests, and the cremation etc.

My partner doesn't have pet insurance and doesn't make much money, so this was very expensive for her.

A lot of the blood tests were'nt even started yet alone completed, but we still got charged for these.

They also wanted the drugs back, to which my partners response was "So are you going to refund me for these unopened drugs?" to which they responded "No". We ended up keeping the drugs at the end.

So I don't like Vets. It's always best to have Pet insurance and they like to hold your feelings and emotions at ransom at any cost.

They just all come across as morally & emotionally bankrupt to me. Perhaps some people on here have had better experiences, but I haven't.

I find it hard to swallow that they won't allow the original Poster to make a partial payment or come to some kind of payments arrangement, but if it went to Debt Collectors or the Court, you would be able to negotiate a monthly affordable payment to them.
 
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I havnt read all the post but heres what I would do if I was you:

Go to the vets and agree a sum (there going to want so board and lodging costs) then go away and split it between your Girl Friend and You. Get the cat back issue solved. Then find some pet insurance as pets arnt cheap especially when they injure them selves.

We have 2 dogs and if we didnt insure them there would be some very expensive vet bills heading our way.
 
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I understand its a business but jeez the vets a bit harsh!
I cant believe they wouldn't even let you set up a payment plan, let alone the £20 a day charge.
Okay i get the cat needs looking after and im not disputing the actual cost but surely a vet would understand that if you cant afford the lump sum as it is adding an an extra £140 a week is not going to help at all!

Hope it works out okay and i shall try refrain from the oh so overly used 'pussy' jokes.

Happy i have no pets now.
 
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Okay i get the cat needs looking after and im not disputing the actual cost but surely a vet would understand that if you cant afford the lump sum as it is adding an an extra £140 a week is not going to help at all!

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Since when did business care about that, just look at debt collectors, banks and the like.
 
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Business has to manage those risks. If people keep skipping out on fees, then you can expect action to be taken.

Doesn't justify it though.

Would it be more ethical turn have turned the cat away rather than help it? That is the other alternative to avoid non payment by 'high risk' people.

Would have been more ethical just to invoice the person which is what happens when I go to private hospitals.
 
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Would have been more ethical just to invoice the person which is what happens when I go to private hospitals.

A private hospital has the infrastructure to deal with that, I don't see how you can compare a small veterinary practice with a hospital. It's a bit like comparing a little bicycle repair shop to a Ford main dealer. Even then I'd like to see you get easy credit for a Ford car repair. :)
 
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