Originally posted by L Plate
and there we have it, exactly the sort of reason why this country is no longer the nation it used to be
there isnt enough patriotism in this country m8 and its people like you who let it all slip away
Problem is, patriotism and nationalism are too easily confused.
As I`ve said above, it is possible to be patriotic and want the best for our troops without supporting this war, and without glorifying their deaths.
I was hoping to attract you in here, just to get an "official" opinion on the military industry. Given the billions of pounds spent on equipment, shouldn`t the army be above such calamity as we have seen in the past two days? If the failure rate on helicopters missions is, say for example, 1% - what is it for bombs ("throw-away" and so mybe less need for reliability)? If we drop 1000 bombs on a civilian city, and say 5% fail to function properly, is that 50 bombs capable of hitting innocent civilians?
I am not strictly having a dig at the army, as I recognise conflict is not simple. My objection is to the government line of "precision warfare" and claims of "zero civilian casualties". These abstractions from the tru reality only serve to sanitise war in a way that "real" soldiers should find unacceptable.