ramthor's monster build

[ramthor]

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Since I started this thread and after listening to your feedback, I have altered the initial setup which you can still see at the bottom of this post.
Initially I knew nothing about water cooling but I took the time to read and learn about it and at least in theory I'm much more confident now.
I have listed below my planned configuration but I kept the price out this time as initially it seemed to attract the wrong kind of crowd as you will see inside the thread if you have the patience to go though it all.
The build itself will start in October as I don't have a lot of time this month due to work.

Main components:

CaseLabs SMA8 (purchased - pics start here )
Asus Rampage V Edition 10 Intel X99 (Socket 2011) DDR4 EATX Motherboard
Intel i7-6950X Extreme 3.00GHz (Broadwell-E) Socket LGA2011-V3 Processor - Retail
Corsair Dominator Platinum 32GB (4x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3200MHz Dual/Quad Channel Kit
NVIDIA TITAN X SLI
Samsung 950 Pro 512GB M.2 PCI-e 3.0 x 4 NVMe Solid State Drive
Samsung 2.0TB 850 EVO SSD 2.5" SATA 6Gbps 32 Layer 3D V-NAND Solid State Drive
WD Black 6TB 7200rpm SATA 6Gb/s 128MB Cache HDD
EVGA SuperNova P2 1200W '80 Plus Platinum' Modular Power Supply
Asus PG348Q ROG Swift 34" 3440x1440 IPS G-Sync 100Hz Gaming Widescreen Curved LED Monitor

Watercooling (combination hard & flexi tube):

Hardware Labs Black Ice® GT Xtreme 560
Hardware Labs Black Ice® Nemesis® 480GTS®
ML140 Pro LED Red 140mm Premium Magnetic Levitation Fan (x4)
ML120 Pro LED Red 120mm Premium Magnetic Levitation Fan (x8)
EK-XTOP Revo D5 PWM - Plexi (x2)
EK-RES X3 250 (x2)
EK-RES X3 - Multiport TOP (x2)
EK-FC Titan X Pascal - Nickel (x2)
EK-FC Titan X Pascal Backplate - Nickel (x2)
EK-Supremacy EVO X99 - Full Nickel
EK-HD PETG Tube 12/16mm 500mm (2pcs)
TUBE PrimoChill PrimoFlex™ Advanced LRT™ 15,9 / 11,1mm - Crystal Clear
EK-HDC Fitting 16mm G1/4 - Black Nickel
EK-HD Adapter 12/16mm - Black Nickel
EK-ACF Fitting 12/16mm - Black Nickel
EK-AF Ball Valve (10mm) G1/4 - Black Nickel
EK-AF Y-Splitter Rotary 2F-1M G1/4 - Black Nickel
EK-CSQ Plug G1/4 - Black Nickel
EK-Ekoolant Pastel RED (concentrate 250mL)

I plan to play with the water cooling components in different configurations: only a small flexi tube loop initially just for the CPU then to change and include the GPUs then to include rigid tubing and in the end to make 2 different loops in 2 different colors.
It will be a learning experience for me and I will take it slowly.
I hope you will enjoy my log.

Cheers!

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Hello,

I am about to pull the trigger on a build that was overdue for some time, 7 years since my last CPU/Mobo change, still rocking the good old i7 920, but changing various bits here and there to keep my PC somewhat competitive. But you can stretch things so much when doing so therefore a complete system rebuild is in order.

And since I haven't upgraded in a while, all those money I should have spent in the past are ready now for a massive purchase.

I'm talking about a £6,000 build with all the bells and whistles that it deserves after such a long time.

Below is the configuration I have in mind. I should mention I will use this as an entertainment center: gaming, 4K video editing, virtual reality, internet browsing, media streaming to my 4K TV.

I am not much of an overclocker but I am willing to squeeze every bit of performance from my build, hence my choice of motherboard. Plus it looks good.

The CPU seems the logical choice especially for gaming with its higher clock speeds and as an all-rounder 6 cores for everything else. More cores will be a waste, less cores would not be as future proof.

The GPU will not be the one in the build but the Titan X (Pascal), which adds £100 to the total cost. Considering the choice of the monitor with its 3440x1440 resolution and aiming for 100 FPS average for its 100Hz refresh it might be probably not enough horsepower and a second Titan X might need to join the club sometime in the future. Will see about that.

The case I chose is a full tower to have enough room for everything without looking cramped and a big window to please my eyes whenever I look at what is inside. Initially I was thinking to get Corsair Graphite 780T because it looks a bit better while keeping the functionality of the 760T but then I changed my mind because of its smaller window. I'm still in two minds about this.

The CPU cooler choice was the best water cooler from Corsair. Not sure about this as I have never installed such a cooler before so I am open to suggestions. I would like it to be Corsair as I know they build decent coolers but I don't really know which one. I just assumed the top range would be the best but I might be wrong.

The rest of the build is a matter of personal needs and preferences but I look forward to hear your opinions on everything below.

As a side note, I made the same configuration on a different website and it was cheaper by around £150. Do Overclockers offer any discounts for larger orders?

Thank you for reading all this and let me know what you think.

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x WD Black 6TB 7200rpm SATA 6Gb/s 128MB Cache HDD - OEM (WD6001FZWX)= £259.99
• 1 x Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 32/64-Bit - USB Pen Drive - Retail (FQC-08789)= £164.99
• 1 x HTC Vive VR Headset UK= £769.99
• 1 x Asus PG348Q ROG Swift 34" 3440x1440 IPS G-Sync 100Hz Gaming Widescreen Curved LED Monitor - Black/Re= £1,099.99
• 1 x Corsair Hydro Series H115i Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler (CW-9060027-WW)= £124.99
• 1 x Corsair Graphite 760T V2 Windowed Full Tower Case - Black (CC-9011073-WW)= £164.99
• 1 x Samsung 2.0TB 850 EVO SSD 2.5" SATA 6Gbps 32 Layer 3D V-NAND Solid State Drive (MZ-75E2T0B/EU)= £529.99
• 1 x Samsung 950 Pro 512GB M.2 PCI-e 3.0 x 4 NVMe Solid State Drive= £275.99
• 1 x Corsair HX1200i 1200W '80 Plus Platinum' Digital Modular Power Supply (CP-9020070-UK)= £219.95
• 1 x EVGA GeForce Titan X SuperClock 12288MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (12G-P4-2992)= £999.95
• 1 x Corsair Dominator Platinum 32GB (4x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3200MHz Dual/Quad Channel Kit (CMD32GX4M4B= £269.99
• 1 x Asus Rampage V Edition 10 Intel X99 (Socket 2011) DDR4 EATX Motherboard= £499.99
• 1 x Intel i7-6850K 3.60GHz (Broadwell-E) Socket LGA2011-V3 Processor - Retail (BX80671I76850K)= £575.99

Total: £5,956.79
(includes shipping: £0.00)
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[ramthor]

Thank you for your answers.
I am not showing off because I haven't bought anything yet. It is just my intention to do so and I am just asking for you experts to guide me or to show me the errors of my ways.
If the build seems excessive please notice it also includes the monitor and the Vive which by themselves add £1900 to the price.
I don't want to buy an already built system because I want to have the liberty to mess with the components whenever I please without voiding the warranty.

 

[ramthor]

Yeah I'm getting that vibe.

I apologize but I really can't understand how can I come across as boasting when I don't even own the said build? I assure you I have better things to do than empty bragging.

Why a 1200W PSU?

Because I might add a second Titan X down the line as I already mentioned above.

£6k build with no custom water cooling just sounds crazy.

If you deduct the monitor and the Vive it's £4,100. Still crazy?

£170 for Windows 10 because it's on a pen drive? Just get the normal version and use an ISO with a normal USB. Or a £12 CD Drive hooked up for the install and then put in a cupboard.

I hope you noticed it is the retail version of Windows 10 PRO. What you are suggesting is Home OEM edition. I need Pro and Retail because I need Remote Desktop built in and I don't want OEM to tie me to one mobo if I want to change it.

Hopefully someone will spec you something decent, not just expensive epeen stuff.

You're suggesting this is not decent. I still can't see why.

 

[ramthor]

What's your current rig and can you elaborate on what exactly it is you'll be using the rig for?

Please read the OP.

 

[ramthor]

Get a ~1000W PSU and save some money

The difference in price for between 1200W and 1000W is 20 quid so not really worth it.

Question if you need the £500 motherboard or such a big M.2 SSD for OS

The other motherboard I would use instead of Rampage would be Asus Deluxe II which is not THAT much cheaper and in return it doesn't have all the overclocking tools that Rampage has.
As for the M.2 since you can't add another one further down the line I thought 512GB would be future proofing.

Stulid is your man here, though

Who is Stulid?

 

[ramthor]

3. You want to buy a £500 mobo but don't wanna be tied to it incase you want to change it? Sorry?

Yes, I might not like it or I might find a fault and have to return it.

4. I obviously read your first post but I still want to know what you're doing all that with now. Surely you don't just want the rig to go into 4k video editing so what are you using to do that now? & is this professional video editing, do you have a youtube channel, or are you just editing home movies?

I don't do 4K video editing just yet but I plan to buy a quadcopter and go into aerial filming for my own pleasure soon after this build is done. I postponed buying it until now because of my poor system I have currently. And before you ask, yes I do have a 4K TV.

 

[ramthor]

A single massive SSD seems a bit odd to me.

I am pretty sure there are 2 SSDs and one HDD in there.

 

[ramthor]

Ah yes, so there is. Do you know how to use them properly?

The fastest SSD for OS and game installs.
Second one for secondary installs/storage.
HDD for movies and everything else.

Am I doing it wrong?

 

[ramthor]

I would check again, the spec you've listed is only showing 1 SSD and 1 HDD. I also think you'd be better off with 2x1080.

Personally at that amount of cash, I'd go with an 8Pack build.

There are 2 Samsung SSDs:
Samsung 950 Pro 512GB M.2 PCI-e 3.0 x 4 NVMe Solid State Drive
Samsung 2.0TB 850 EVO SSD 2.5" SATA 6Gbps 32 Layer 3D V-NAND Solid State Drive (MZ-75E2T0B/EU)

And one WD HDD:
WD Black 6TB 7200rpm SATA 6Gb/s 128MB Cache HDD - OEM (WD6001FZWX)

 

[ramthor]

Regarding SLI setup vs Single powerful card setup. Things are debatable. I have SLI on my Alienware 18 laptop and I can tell you I had massive problems with games not released with SLI profile from the beginning.
Same are reporting plenty of people with driver issues and what not.

 

[ramthor]

I don't know if OcUK will do any discounts on huge orders, would need to call them to find out or do a post in the CS section.

costs of PC parts have all gone up due to the value of the £1 dropping with all the brixit stuff which maybe why its more here than else where.

most certainly a nice system, did you have a budget in mind or is this just the cost its come too with everything you wanted?

No, I didn't have a budget in mind. Price creeped up as I added the monitor and the Vive but I always wanted an ultrawide and VR. Plus the Intel and nVidia are greedy *******s!

 

[ramthor]

Why are you buying an old Titan X?

Troll Thread?

Can you even read?

 

[ramthor]

Why are you buying an old Titan X?

Troll Thread?

Let me help you.

The GPU will not be the one in the build but the Titan X (Pascal), which adds £100 to the total cost. Considering the choice of the monitor with its 3440x1440 resolution and aiming for 100 FPS average for its 100Hz refresh it might be probably not enough horsepower and a second Titan X might need to join the club sometime in the future. Will see about that.

 

[ramthor]

Saved you £1300 ish...

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x 8Pack Approved - Elite Tier Haswell-E Bundle: Intel Core i7-5820K @ 4125MHz, Gigabyte X99 Gaming 5P,= £1,006.86
• 1 x Phanteks Enthoo Primo Full Tower Case= £209.99
• 1 x Asus PG348Q ROG Swift 34" 3440x1440 IPS G-Sync 100Hz Gaming Widescreen Curved LED Monitor - Black/Re= £1,099.99
• 1 x EVGA SuperNova P2 1000W '80 Plus Platinum' Modular Power Supply (220-P2-1000-X3)= £194.99
• 2 x MSI GeForce GTX 1080 Gaming X RGB 8192MB GDDR5X PCI-Express Graphics Card= £689.99
• 2 x Samsung 1.0TB 850 EVO SSD 2.5" SATA 6Gbps 32 Layer 3D V-NAND Solid State Drive (MZ-75E1T0B/EU)= £289.99
• 1 x WD Black 4TB 7200rpm SATA 6Gb/s 128mb Cache HDD - OEM (WD4004FZWX)= £191.99

Total: £4,663.78
(includes shipping: £0.00)
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The alternative...

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/infi...erclocked-watercooled-dream-pc-fs-462-oe.html

You forgot the Vive which is almost £800 so you saved me £500. In return my config has newer CPU, more single card raw power, double the RAM at a higher frequency and more drive space. I think it's worth £500 extra.

 

[ramthor]

I'd suggest looking at
6 core cpu

6850K is a 6 core

32gig of ram - do you want or need 32gig or would 16 gig do fine?

32GB for future proofing and video editing

A motherboard that will let you use the m.2 and normal ssd

I thought Asus Rampage x99 let's you have m.2 and SATA at the same time?

AIO water setup would be fine too - Corsair or EK's new stuff - Even the OCUK tech labs stuff is good, they do the plumbing and you just fit it.

Not confident enough to get into watercooling just yet.

Case - your call what you get - make sure it can fit a rad in the roof

I checked and Graphite 760T has that option. You can see it even in the pictures on the website.

1000 PSU is plenty good for titan sli (later on) and your whole setup.

Again, there is a £20 price difference between 1000W and 1200W so I think it's worth it.

SSD's - M.2 for OS I presume? and other applications with the larger ssd for the games?

Yes

Do you want or need a dvd drive? You can buy a cheapo external drive and load windows 10 off of it, then stick the dvd drive in a drawer.Win 10 - buy the cheapest version you can get. No point in the pro version if you'll not use the features on it.

I might add a Blu-Ray drive later but the difference in price for Windows 10 doesn't come from the fact that it's sold on a USB drive but because it is Pro Retail instead of Home OEM. I might change it for Home but I still want the future proofing of the Retail.

Have you though about cabling and getting some proper braided cables? I bought the cablemod cables for my red and black build and it makes the build really pop.

Yes I did and I say a full Corsair kit is about £75. I'll probably get that afterwards when I'm happy with all the hardware and only cosmetic touches are needed.

Graphics card - Get a pascal titan as you mentioned. EVGA are doing a watercooled version iirc.

Will do. I thought Titan X Pascal is only sold by nVidia and it will ever be.

Aim to get that and let that baby fly

DJI FTW !

 

[ramthor]

Do you want to do 4k video editing or do you need to do it? What is your job?

I want to do it as a hobby. My job is a personal thing unrelated to my OP.

 

[ramthor]

The Corsair H115i in your original spec is an AIO Watercooling unit though?

All-in-One is much easier to handle than custom made water cooling.
Even on overclockers.co.uk my cooling solution is listed in the Air Cooling section. As it should be.

 

[ramthor]

I want to do it as a hobby. My job is a personal thing unrelated to my OP.

So you don't do anything at the moment? and it's nothing to do with your job.

Just because I don't want to post here my personal details doesn't mean I don't do anything but nice assumption.

Pretty expensive outlay for something that isn't even your hobby atm.

It will be along with VR but gaming already is and so are 4K movies.

I appreciate your negative views nevertheless.

 

[ramthor]

The H115i is actually listed in all-in-one watercooling not air, but that's besides the point.

The point was that OcUK do some tech labs pre-filled water cooling kits that offer custom performance without having to assemble/fill.

Is this it?
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ocuk...-motherboard-and-intel-2011-v3-wc-124-tl.html

It seems to me a bit expensive £400 over the price of the MB.

 

[ramthor]

Don't know why everyone is picking on the guy. Sounds to me like he has a very decent wad of cash to blow, and he wants a monster gaming rig. Nowt wrong with that, might die tomorrow.

Having said that, the OP has made a few questionable choices and you really don't need to spend that much. I built a pretty hefty gaming rig end of last year/ start of this that was based around an x99 Sabertooth, 5930k, 2x980Ti in SLI, an Acer x34, all AIO watercooled (including both GPU's) with lots of fan tweaks and customisation, and all wrapped up in, what I think anyway, a very beautiful (but expensive) Lian Li pc-08 glass case. Probably cost about 3.5k all told but I didn't do it all at once so can't remember now.

Thank you for the kind words.
Again, the build I listed includes top notch monitor and VR gear. The PC itself is 4.2K, only £700 more than your top build. I put that difference on the Intel and nVidia's greed who upped the prices grossly for their high end products. That's lack of competition right there!

And let's not forget about Brexit!