Scottish Elections Result
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Ireland did though, didn't it?
Forget about that one, or 1/4 of the earth that has sucessfully removed British rule?
Why show such narrow historic scope?
I think you'll find it very hard to shut anyone up with arguments like this.
I am bowled over by your overwhelming evidence and tactful counter argument of course...
It's a bit different when the rest of the world was only under British rule for a couple of decades at most. The Union has been around for much longer than that.
The argument I posted was merely light hearted comment at the fact that you'll never change the minds of someone who won't listen to any reason or opinions than their own, even if the other person is giving a perfectly rational and economically correct argument.
I predict if Scotland did become independent, there would be a big party and then everyone would think "err... so what do we do now?"
50% of Scotland's GDP is public spending, subsidized by English taxpayers.
What could possibly go wrong?
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Scotland would be in a bad shape at this moment if it became independent now, but give it a few years. Once the recession is over and things are growing, I think things will be much easier for us and people then will be much more open to the idea of independence, just wait and see... only time will tell. Of course I'll be against it, but I can still feel the winds changing... threatening the already fragile union. With labour out of action seemingly in Scotland they won't be able to rely on us - which could pave a way for a conservative outright victory at the next general.
That isn't very accurate on the whole, and even if it was it would be irrelevent in comparison to a future economic plans hinging on a yes referendum.
Hmmm if you say so but next time try using a smiley to save confusion
Everyone would wake up with a bad hangover and get back to their daily life. the Civic landscape would then undergo obvious long term changes to suit..
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Hardly a ringing endorsement for Westminster economic management now, is it?
Potentially a lot, but nothing like what will happen if nothing changes long term..
Mainly because of historic Wesminster socioeconomic mismanagement, New Labour and select ruddy private sector bankers..
Theoretically speaking (with no hicups) yes, which would be a very strange unchartered territory with regards to the UK's political makeup and would be potentially set to be very turbulent as well by this point, 2015, SNP would have been in majority power for four years and if they stick to their plan the referendum may be kicking about at this time.
That could confuse the Westminster approach to the subject if Holyrood can time it right, because the innevitable face off between Labour and Conservatives has to happen they are also likely to combine, officially or not, to campaign for the Union. It could be a very congested time, consitutionally, and I don't think either will have the capacity to confront each other and campaign in full blown mode up here which if it ever came to it the SNP would break the bank and their backs for. I suspect Dave know's this, if he's smart he'll start a positive dialogue for the Union now and treat us better than the Establishment has the odd habbit of doing.
The coalition itself may end up being a costly distraction in all this..
Hopefully the other parties have learned the lessons of negitive campaigning in Scotland now; with the exception of the Scottish Conservatives to a very large degree due to their succesful campaign.
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Pen66 - It becoming increasingly common on the forum to see this sort of thing go unpunished. So it's obviously going to keep happening. You can't be racist on OCUK but it seems to be a green light to be anti-Scottish or anti-English.
It needs to be stamped on, not only because it's bloomin pointless but because it gets in the way of proper debates on the forum.
It needs to be stamped on, not only because it's bloomin pointless but because it gets in the way of proper debates on the forum.
No one is really bothered and I didn't expect them to be. I've rtm'd it and nothing. Year after year threads get trashed (way worse than this) and it is seemingly acceptable.
But what is seemingly not acceptable is the use of the word 'fool' et al which will result in an infraction; where as in comparison you can purposefully troll discussions with ill intended xenophobic slurs poking fun even at the expense of war dead and this is perfectly acceptable for a 'family friendly' business.. aye as long as you ain't Scottish.
What more can I say other than bring on more Jew, 'Scotch' and KKK threads.
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Soldato
can the mods also take care of biohazards trolling... everyone who doesnt agree with him gets trolled until they cant be bothered anymore...
he obviously hates the english and had a nasty line of text under his sig yesterday to bait asnd troll people even more
Soldato
TBH all kwerk and rz30 have done is taken any relevant points in their posts (if there were any) and have them lose any substance.
Both are EXTREMELY bitter and xenophobic and one of them cannot string a post together without huge grammar or spelling mistakes. Normally I don't bring this up but when we are discussing a topic such as this, failing to being able to write properly just makes your "arguments" lose any validity.
Both are EXTREMELY bitter and xenophobic and one of them cannot string a post together without huge grammar or spelling mistakes. Normally I don't bring this up but when we are discussing a topic such as this, failing to being able to write properly just makes your "arguments" lose any validity.
Soldato
You do realise what trolling actually is?
All I have seen from BH is a propensity to continually argue his point. Some may see this as "wearing" but that is not the same as trolling
he obviously hates the english and had a nasty line of text under his sig yesterday to bait asnd troll people even more
Actually, I have not seen any anti-English content in his posts (in a personal sense). I have seen anti-English in other posts but not Biohazard's posts.
The sig line you mention seems to have been removed by BH himself which, if he was fervently anti-English he would leave it there as it has been for some time without issue from the Mods. The fact he has removed it says something for his attitude which, unfortunately, I cannot say for others....
Soldato
End of the day you are not going to have independence, so get the idea out of your minds, there is no point in debating it tbh.
Soldato
this result is actually a disaster for Cameron, imagine how the tories would feel about breaking up the union, let alone the queen.