Commissario
Nope, not by James Clavell.
There are books about William Adams though, the person Blackthorne was based on.
There are books about William Adams though, the person Blackthorne was based on.
Soldato
Occasionally, the sea of crap tv vomits up a pearl.
Shogun is such a jewel.
Shogun is such a jewel.
Soldato
Loved this from start to finish 
Soldato
I wonder if the seeming public outcry for "more" might lead to an "away from the books" season 2 being made, showing the things only glimpsed during the finale, like becoming Shogun etc?
I'm very happy with what we got though, I'm not sure adding more would be the best idea, as I'd rather leave it as it is rather than risk creating from scratch something which is poor.
I'm very happy with what we got though, I'm not sure adding more would be the best idea, as I'd rather leave it as it is rather than risk creating from scratch something which is poor.
I hope not.
If they wanted to show the Battle of Sekigahara and Toranaga becoming Shogun, another two episodes would have served that purpose well. There's maybe enough content there for a movie, but a second season would be mostly filler.
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Commissario
I really hope not. Considering how long this took to make, even if they did, it would be years before another series.
But it doesn’t need it. It’s finished, the story is complete.
Word is that George R. R. Martin is going to knock up a season 2 screenplay.
Soldato
I hope they make a 2nd season, even if it took 3/4 years to get right, wouldn't matter to me. They've built a world that's unbelievably popular and there's clearly an appetite for it. Why let that world go to waste.
I think as long as Sanada is involved as a producer, they've got a great chance of making this more than just the original book.
I think as long as Sanada is involved as a producer, they've got a great chance of making this more than just the original book.
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I'm kind of in two minds whether I want to see this or not I was frankly rather obsessed with the original series and even read the book, rather superb if you're looking for a blockbuster novel that isn't just gash padded with crap - so I'm not sure what a remake could bring other than better CGI etc. That being said the BBC gives it a good review and overview (its also funny that they talk about it as if it were a completely new show which no-one has heard of before, there are still some of us around who remember the original I've even got the DVD on my shelf...). The original was very close to the book surprisingly so infact.
There is only one book so.. yeah. Not needed. It is loosely based on a true story Clavell spiced it up of course but at the core its essentially true not sure how any new writings would fit in with that probably not at all.
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Soldato
Good show but disappointed it’s only one series. Feels unfinished to me.
Watched 9 and 10 yesterday. It was a good if slightly brutal ending especially for poor ....
I get the appetite for more Shogun and can see the possibility but I suspect it's quite an expensive production so it would have to be an exceptional screenplay.
Anyway - I enjoyed it thoroughly. 8/10
I get the appetite for more Shogun and can see the possibility but I suspect it's quite an expensive production so it would have to be an exceptional screenplay.
Anyway - I enjoyed it thoroughly. 8/10
well that was.....sudden. I would have liked to actually see the events play out for real rather that in "flash forward" mode. I wouldnt want to see another series as the story has been told but would have liked to see one more episode just to play out the endgame properly. For me , Toranaga was a right user and abuser and, frankly, no better than anyone on the council.
Soldato
Yeah Toranaga was no hero.
Just seen the last episode, just a wonderful series from start to finish really. A very rare thing these days.
Just seen the last episode, just a wonderful series from start to finish really. A very rare thing these days.
Soldato
Rather than leave Japan in the hands of those who wished war and conflict (Ishido and others on the council), he managed to defeat those enemies and become Shogun of Japan uniting it as a stable "peaceful" country for the next 250 years, all without a bloody civil war which would have killed huge numbers and split Japan. He did all of that for the cost of just a handful of lives, almost all of which were given gladly in his service, rather than him having people assassinated as Ishido was happy to do.
That is a far better person to be Shogun than the alternative was, and I don't believe that makes the TV version of him "bad".
IRL however, the real "Toranaga" (Tokugawa Ieyasu) wasn't that "nice", and he killed "Ishido" (Ishida Mitsunari) in a truly horrendous way over 3 days after "Ishido's" defeat at the bloody Battle of Sekigahara, which the TV Show only showed a glimpse of at the very end (not aas peaceful as the TV show made out but the biggest battle in Japans history at that point).
His centre of power "Edo" later became Tokyo and Edo Castle (which has stood for almost 600 years), was used by "Toranaga" as his palace, with it eventually becoming part of the Emperors Imperial Palace!
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Soldato
Do tell, I thought he was just beheaded?
He buried him up to the neck and invited the public to cut his neck with a bamboo sword, it took 3 days for him to die
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