** The Official Nvidia GeForce 'Pascal' Thread - for general gossip and discussions **

[Twirlywoos]

Yep, no one will buy the main flagship any more and hold for the Ti's to roll in and do nearly the same thing.

I'm looking forward to Pascal. Exciting times ahead!

That's what upsets me, I don't want to pay Titan prices but the 980ti with less VRAM but Titan compute is something that I want to go for this year instead of x70's in SLI. However, we have to wait for Q2 to see those cards appear whilst NV flog the x70/80's.

Will I need to upgrade motherboard/CPU though to take advantage of the increased bus speeds? I'm still on Z77.

 

[blasterbolt]

I really can't wait for pascal . I am hoping to see 1 card that can run 1440p at 120 fps min with ultra settings

 

[Glanza]

I really can't wait for pascal . I am hoping to see 1 card that can run 1440p at 120 fps min with ultra settings

I'd be very surprised if they can do that but one can dream

 

[Skynet5]

I really can't wait for pascal . I am hoping to see 1 card that can run 1440p at 120 fps min with ultra settings

Never happen. Games will continue to get more demanding...and poorly coded apparently...not that I could do any better.

 

[shamus21]

http://www.techpowerup.com/213254/nvidia-tapes-out-pascal-based-gp100-silicon.html

Looks like the TitanX and the 980Ti will have a very short shelf life.

 

[Gregster]

http://www.techpowerup.com/213254/nvidia-tapes-out-pascal-based-gp100-silicon.html

Looks like the TitanX and the 980Ti will have a very short shelf life.

Cool and if true (which I expect it is), NVidia will be going straight to HBM 2.0. 6-12 months for Pascal is sweet.

 

[Brumboy]

http://www.techpowerup.com/213254/nvidia-tapes-out-pascal-based-gp100-silicon.html

Looks like the TitanX and the 980Ti will have a very short shelf life.

Then we can just sell them and pay the difference for a Pascal card, depending on the price of course, I have a bad feeling that the trend of high priced GPU's isn't going to stop.

 

[Yaayuh!]

http://www.techpowerup.com/213254/nvidia-tapes-out-pascal-based-gp100-silicon.html

Looks like the TitanX and the 980Ti will have a very short shelf life.

Since when is a year "very short shelf life"

 

[ashmanuk67]

So with the Pascal GPU will you need a motherboard with NV-Link embedded??

 

[subbytna]

Yep, no one will buy the main flagship any more and hold for the Ti's to roll in and do nearly the same thing.

I'm looking forward to Pascal. Exciting times ahead!

Of course they will, the sheeple will keep buying for epeen and for forum sigs. Nvidia know this and that's why prices are so high for release cards, because daftys will buy it because "it's the best" (even for a short time) If you said, no wait, hold on Nvidia I'm not taking this rip off pricing any more, someone else would just buy it anyway so you're ******* in the wind.

 

[shamus21]

Since when is a year "very short shelf life"

That depends on your perspective .
Personally I would like to see Nvidia HBM based GPU`s asap.

 

[Jono8]

That depends on your perspective .

No it doesn't. A year is quite a long time in tech terms.

 

[triss]

Yip no one really should buy titanx or TI because pascal will be better
Also dont buy pascal because will be a card out better then that in a year too
I'm waiting for pascal personally simply because atm i play older games like lotro which doesnt need a new card. If i bought W3 or other AAA games next week and wanted a boost i'd buy a titanX/TI/Fury card without worrying, about its lifespan tbh

 

[elmarko]

It depends really.

If your next upgrade goal is smooth 4k then it's worth skipping this generation as they will not give that.

At 1080p a gtx-970 is more than sufficient, 1440p is a stepping stone resolution & personally - with 4k around the corner this isn't worth investing in (the TI/TX & for some games 980 all can cover this). But at 4k even with SLI the performance isn't good enough in the current generation of cards to support it at a stable 60fps without turning down settings on AAA games (TW3, Crysis etc)

This for me is why I've decided to wait until Pascal, as the next generation of cards will be made with 4k in mind & two high end cards should be able to provide stable frame-rates at 4k for a decent amount of time.

 

[P.B]

But in that time the games will get harder to run which puts you back to square one ?

 

[Ayahuasca]

Since when is a year "very short shelf life"

Will be well over a year for Titan X owners who bought at release.

Besides it won't mean they have to upgrade, granted most will if the performance leap is massive but the 9 series cards will still be on sale just like the 7 series cards were for months after the 9 series launched and some are still for sale now.

 

[wunkley]

But in that time the games will get harder to run which puts you back to square one ?

Exactly! It's a never ending cycle, and never changes. For the last 17 or so years I have been a PC gamer...

Everyone says one fast card is the best route (and it is). Then a game comes out that needs more so you get two.

Then everyone moans about SLI or crossfire issues, but you plough on. A new flagship card comes out that is just about powerful enough to match you current pair so you change.

Then monitor tech leaps a bit (resolution or Hz) and you upgrade that, so you need to upgrade your once, very recently flagship GPU again so reluctantly you go SLI or crossfire again.

Then another game comes out that pushes boundries, and what you have now isn't enough. So you start lusting/ hoping after new tech, and the whole cycle starts again. Rinse and repeat.

 

[Strife212]

We are in a bit of a weird state where the top cards slaughter 1080p fully maxed in any game but aren't quite good enough for maxed 4K.

 

[ErikN]

So do you think NVlink will be a SLI bridge-type thing, or something mobo-manufacturers need to implement (for a premium price ofcourse)?

 

[eddyr]

So with the Pascal GPU will you need a motherboard with NV-Link embedded??

So do you think NVlink will be a SLI bridge-type thing, or something mobo-manufacturers need to implement (for a premium price ofcourse)?

It will be on the motherboard and looks to need significant modification for power delivery and trace length. You can disregard it unless you are intending on building some form of supercomputer and are willing to pay through the nose for it. It wont be marketed at the PC consumer, closest it will get is servers and they will probably have to co-support both pci-e/Nv-link.

An overview here:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7900/nvidia-updates-gpu-roadmap-unveils-pascal-architecture-for-2016