Yep, that's a tough one to swallow for the upper mid range card.
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** The Official Nvidia GeForce 'Pascal' Thread - for general gossip and discussions **
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Yep, that's a tough one to swallow for the upper mid range card.
If that happens and they try and charge over $699 for the non reference 1080's then I will probably just pick up another 980ti. I want the 1080 and the 25% performance is exactly what I need at the resolution I use, but have to draw the line somewhere. I think a lot of other people would do the same, so hopefully that doesn't happen because I want a 1080.
Caporegime
I have doubts about that, i think the performance will be broadly similar but faster?
The 1080 is 30% faster but its a lot more GPU than the 1070.
Brand new store 980TI or 1070 whichever offers the best price for perf, or Polaris if its a significant step up from my 970, and i'm not taking about 980 perf as in reality one of those is not much more than 10% faster, you don't see many of those running 1500-1550Mhz 24/7 <oh yes!
Anyway. 980TI or somewhere near for <£350 is what i'm looking for. i don't care what arrangement of numbers are printed on the box.
I just can't shake looking at it in the perspective of the GTX680 heh and its making me very reluctant to part with my money.
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Yeah NVIDIA must surely be so proud of their $100 vapor chamber that helps keep the low power card at a cool 82c. Imo NVIDIA are charging more because they can and people will pay it. No excuse about partners, the premium design that has been around since the Titan, or otherwise.
NVIDIA can say anything they want, but to believe anything other than the fact they want more money out of our wallets is naive. They don't sit in a boardroom and cry about how upset partners are, they figure out how to make the most profit possible. Practically have the high end market to themselves right now.
Caporegime
nVidia are simply charging more for the FE because they know some people will pay it, there's no logical reason why it should cost more.
Of course that may well be the reason but a negative side effect of this pricing is that any decent AIB solution such as the Gigabyte G1 cooler,etc will look more premium than the rather poor FE edition cooler. The gullible will then accept that they must pay more for the better AIB coolers.
A sad situation for consumers and will only get worse if AMD can't or won't compete in the high end segment.
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Yes that's a good point as there is no way a cooler running + at least 100MHz higher boost clock like the Gigabyte Gaming series will be anywhere near the MSRP.
Caporegime
Its extremely difficult to get an accurate power draw measure from Maxwell or Pascal.
They have a pretty impressive and sophisticated power switch tech, its so fast normal power meters cannot keep up so they give a reading thats is 'somewhere there abouts'
Toms Hardware use specialist equipment, they measured peak draws of over 300 watts directly at the card.
Which would explain why an 'apparently' 180 watt card is getting so hot with what is a pretty good cooler.
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For my uses I have never rated the Titan cooler, on the high end cards they all seem to be able to hit the 80s on auto fan. I can see why it's an option for SLI users and the like. When compared to custom coolers the cooling performance is very poor though, which makes the $100 premium even more farcical.
Caporegime
They don't dump the hot air into the case, so the neighbouring card isn't sucking in second-hand hot air and boiling its self.
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Hence why I understand it's a valid option for SLI users.
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Performance aside the reference boards look more premium than most of the AIB plastic tat that comes out.
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Sorry, lost you at performance aside
for arguments sake I would rather have that nasty old 680 reference style black plastic cooler than the Titan one if it magically ran 20c cooler like an AIO. When I'm playing games I'll be looking at my screen.The reason it is getting hot is because the default fan curve is tuned to be quiet.... if you run the fan at 100% it will keep the 1080 in the 60's even when it has 120% power limit and overclocked....
If you run a 980ti reference cooler even at 80% fan it will go over 80c at the stock settings no overclock or power limit change. On a 980ti you have zero chance of running it in 60's at any fan speed.
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Inno3D presents new iChiLL cooling solution for GeForce 1000 Series
http://videocardz.com/60176/inno3d-presents-new-ichill-cooling-solution-for-geforce-1000-series
http://videocardz.com/60176/inno3d-presents-new-ichill-cooling-solution-for-geforce-1000-series