The official Philips BDM4065UC thread

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looking on some other tech sites it seems to be coming in about that and a bit above in Euro so i dont see it being a problem.

amazing to think something like this would have been £4-£5k just a few years ago. Seems like 4k is steaming ahead now with no real price hike in sight compared to 1440p in fact per pound it seems cheaper given the bigger screen sizes!

Wonder if its anything to do with VR really grabbing peoples attention and inspiration ? everyone who tries it says its the future of gaming but not quite there with the resolution but everything else is amazing.. of course you can always build a PC to match the better versions with 4k screens. We seem to be getting all our wishes with curved, 21:9, 4k,5k,120hz,144hz, VA panels, next year 120hz 4k even.. etc.. its like manufacturers are in a bit of a panic.
 
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http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1838713&page=13

take a look. It appears this might have weird stretched pixels. If true... id avoid it unless it doesn’t bother you. There is a comparison gif in that thread

But here's the catch that some people on the Japanese forums were not happy with - the display actually has a slightly distorted aspect ratio that is not exactly 16:9 but closer to 20:11 (it is 4 mm wider and 7 mm shorter than one would expect from an exact 16:9 39.5 inch display). This causes the image displayed to be slightly stretched width-wise, such that a 1:1 perfect square would be displayed as 1:1.0177. In other words, the image would appear to be stretched 1.77% wider than it should be.
 
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The guys an idiot.
That stretching gif has been doctored to make it look worse, won't be anywhere near that noticeable.

Notice how the nose in the middle doesn't move at all ;)

not sure if your joking? but that wasnt straight from the screen that was an 'impression' of what it would look like.. surely you can read? going round calling people idiots isnt nice.

even so, the pixels are stretched a bit. My 'mantra' ( for a better word ) has to be always able to do 1:1 scaling with no pixel stretch or non native fit.

again, this issue is probably negligble, I wouldnt buy it now until more people have tested it, but the early japaneese testers who got it before we did seem to have gone cold on the model. Im Just letting people know in case its a thing ( no matter how small ) that bothers you when you are spending a lot of money on a screen, dont shoot the messenger :)
 
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I wasn't calling you an idiot or anyone on ocuk forums.)

I know, Its just the principle. If your posting on here Im assuming your probably smarter than the average person who hasn't a clue about scaling technology, 4k monitors etc.. so I just didn't expect or appreciate that wording from a fellow nerd.


Other than the slight pixel stretching, do you know what has made them go cold on it?

that was the reason. I think some input lag testing is needed also..
 
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Ok heres a quick pic

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I'm really not sure why that is upside down though ! When I uploaded it the pic looks normal. Soon as it gets to their site its upside down.

what’s the definition like? obviously its a massive screen.

thanks for the pic, looks great.
 
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Its soo sharp ! Its lovely. I wonder if some things look washed out as the detail not up to spec.

I will give you an example if I play BF4 at 1600p res on this then it looks so so but soon as I put it to 4K Res - WOW WOW WOW.

Wow looks lovely in 4K and runs fine. Also tried Dragon age I as well.

I'm never going back to smaller then 40.

Alien Isolation looks espcially lovely as thats a dark game.

sounds great.Im very tempted by it

I saw a 48" 4k set recently and i have to say yup it blew the 1080p sets away, surprisingly it was hugely better not just a bit.
 
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Yeah, the blacks and contrast are immense on this.

Having used both 2560x1440 and 3440x1440 monitors, I can say that the PPI being only slightly higher on this does make a difference still. But mainly because I have this further from me than I had those screens, due to the size.

The size and pixel pitch is just right for me, as I didn't want to deal with scaling issues. Any higher ppi and scaling would be necessary.

Now I can hold tight til we have a 5120x2160 (or whatever the correct number is for 21;9) 39 inch with gsync/freesync, 120hz, curved and preferably va.

Hopefully they make that anyway... Otherwise I would happily settle for another 40 inch 16:9 with th rest of those specs, as it still allows for a massive 21:9 screen with custom resolutions.

its so tempting..

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Its always bad getting a 16:9 and being aware of its limited height but with this 39.5" Its more of a TV !

i need more pics really, sort of good ones that demonstrate the clarity. In a nutshell forgetting size would you say 4k is better @ 40" than a 1080p @ 24" in terms of that pin sharpness ?

the best image so far i have seen is this one..

http://twimages.vr-zone.net/2014/11/philips-BDM4065UC_9.jpg

looking at that, with my duff old eyes i think any more PPI and im really going to struggle. 40" looks perfect .. i also have a massive desk.
 
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the PWM cycling only kicks in if you lower the brightness control below 100, which i expect most people will need to as it's very bright at 100%. From there, the backlight is rapidly switched on and off at 240Hz which is what can lead to eye strain and headaches for some people

hopefully being VA specialists BenQ will use this or a simular panel and implement their low blue light and flicker free technologies. that would make it even more ideal..

all i need then is HDMi 2.0 & DP1.3 for some panel overclocking abilities
 
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Or do as someone suggested and lower the brightness in the Pc Control Panel.

Thats what I am doing and works perfectly for me

doesnt that screw the colour range up though and alter the effective gamma ?

sorry, but id prefer a proper implementation. its good that you have a ( compromised ) work around though. As said, fingers crossed benq has their patented flicker free tech to put into this
 
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Yeah, too busy playing dragon age on it when I have any time to spare.

That I play in 16:9, as don't think wider FOV will do much for me.

Looks wicked :)

Can be a bit f a challenge to the 970's though.

damn you.

21:9 is cool and all that but 16:9 on a 40" with the fov slider up a bit isnt exactly a square box :D

on of the reasons that people have been wowed the 34" 21:9 is a lot to do with it being about 32" wide which is loads bigger than the 24" 16:9 most people are used to running. With the philips the width is about 34".
 
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Actually, with the 40 inch, it's actually closer to a 38 inch wide :)

http://www.displaywars.com/40-inch-16x9-vs-38-inch-21x9

no not diagonally, i mean physical width ( i checked on the philips website before posting ;) )

that link says the same ..

width: 34.86 inches - >> As a 16:9 Display 40.00 inches
Width 31.25 inches - >> As a 21:9 Display @ 34.00 inches

thats the right link :D

http://www.displaywars.com/34-inch-21x9-vs-40-inch-16x9

correct me if im wrong though.. because now im doubting myself. Either way the 40" is bigger all round and has a higher PPI
 
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its not really the width at all that people like about 21:9, which is why the 29 inchers are so popular. It's about the aspect ratio itself. it just pulls you in to games and film in a way that 16:9 cant.

I know that.

I still think 21:9 is cool. But with the 40" 16:9 its physically wider than a 34" 21:9 screen ( which was my point above ) . So you can run 21:9 on that screen with a custom ratio and have a higher PPI a higher height, more width than the 34" LG 21:9's and being that most people game in low light and the VA panel is black rather than IPS your able to have a 21:9 and 16:9 on a screen that big without it looking weird i.e the black borders dont really matter unlike on an IPS with its weird edge glow.

you cant actually tell the difference between a 21:9 panel and a super large 16:9 running 21:9 here.. thats the sort of light i would normally game in anyways on a evening

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outside of that even though 21:9 is super wide, 16:9 with a 90+ FOV or 100 is a fairly wide gaming experience in any case.

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