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i have seen various posts warning of not being stuck with a betamax like EV yes!.Has anyone said anything that even vaguely resembles this claim?
i have seen various posts warning of not being stuck with a betamax like EV yes!.Has anyone said anything that even vaguely resembles this claim?
a PA system will be fine if it’s able to be run from a 13A socket.Does anyone use v2L for stuff? I've done a bit of googling and looks like the kia niro can handle a 13A socket but might struggle for anything with a surge in current at start like a motor with direct start (lawnmower or the like). Does it really just work? Car currently away so haven't been able to run out and plug the kettle in for the sake of proving to myself it works just yet.
I want to run a PA system off of it for a few hours for an event in a few weeks, PA systems are generally very low load aren't they? We're hiring a big battery pack as well as a back up just in case but would be ideal if the car works.
i have seen various posts warning of not being stuck with a betamax like EV yes!.
The leaf is a slightly different beast as chademo is really well supported for bidirectional charging.I went to the second Late Brake Show live, they were powering the stage off a Nissan Leaf.
Has anyone said anything that even vaguely resembles this claim?
You tell intelligent octopus how much you want and by when in the app. It sorts out the rest, charging the car when there is the most (cheapest) leccy. It remembers your settings and thus is as you described.
Literally to small 10-15 minute slots.
That's with current charging technology.
You are describing what currently exists already, either in car or even supported in an old charger like mine which is half a decade old.
You’ve literally just described Octopus Intelligent and Ovo Anytime (I’m sure there are others).
Well, consider me educated! I didn't realise that the current API's were able to switch on and off in such a granular way as that, I thought it was simply a window during which your car charged for a suitable duration.that is *exactly* how it works with intelligent octopus.
Yeah to be honest my thought that chargers may change in the future was based on meeting someone from the local DNO who talked about the future of managed supply to domestic chargers. He made it sound like this would be done at a local supply network level, not piecemeal by individual suppliers.The problem with stuff like Intelligent Octopus can be seen by going to the FAQs on their website and scrolling down to the models of cars currently having issues. Because it is totally dependent on them working with each suppliers apps rather than being a general solution, it will also have problems with scalability and transferability. That said, I don't think the functionality that @lordrobs is talking about would require new charging hardware, and I think stuff like Intelligent Octopus demonstrate why.
Who said I had a negative view? That isn't the same thing as having the 'imagination' that potentially things may change in the future.Octopus Kraken is waving.
Imagine having such a negative view of current hardware based on your assumption of products that might be on the future when its actually the now and you use the caveate 'AFAIK'...
Yes, this is exactly what I was referring to. As I say, my speculating was based on the impression the chap from the DNO gave when talking about the flaky local network when we are way down the line with EV adoption.the future of intelligent octopus is probably by controlling the chargepoint not the cars.....
Only a few post above which took the thread this way...
I don't see why the idea that current EV 'chargers' might be superceded in the future is so unbelievable.
Ha, it was you! No wonder you are getting all emosh. Not sure if that fits the 'to explain is not to excuse' brief?I get the feeling that current home electric chargers are going to end up being one of those things like phone ports or coax tv aerials that people buying houses in the future are going to wonder what they are for.
Ha, it was you! No wonder you are getting all emosh. Not sure if that fits the 'to explain is not to excuse' brief?
Who said I had a negative view? That isn't the same thing as having the 'imagination' that potentially things may change in the future.
And yes, as far as IknowKNEW there aren't any charge points that can be effectively duty cycled on and off during a particular timeframe by external control from the grid. I don't claim to have an encyclopaedic of such things though so I did caveat it, what is wrong with that?
Still... makes a change from you being all over jpaul I guess.
Yes, this is exactly what I was referring to. As I say, my speculating was based on the impression the chap from the DNO gave when talking about the flaky local network when we are way down the line with EV adoption.
Honestly? No.You couldnt see the post of your tone was in a negative context?
Ive edited the quote too.
Jpaul deserves all he gets, dont protect the Pope.
Honestly? No.
As for the edit it is obviously me misunderstanding how the technology works because I thought everything was done at the vehicle / supplier level. Not at a local supply network level. Maybe that will never even be required, I was simply saying that it doesn't seem that unfeasible that charge points may evolve at some point in the future making the current ones old tech.
That doesn't mean they stop working and I'm not saying that Type 2 connections won't be a thing. As you say, the charger is in the car, so I'm talking about the box on the wall turning the switch on and off and the potential that at some point in the future they have different functionality / control. Who cares anyway if in 15 years time charge points change? These things aren't designed to last forever from an aesthetic point of view if nothing else.
Sweet, that's good to knowI went to the second Late Brake Show live, they were powering the stage off a Nissan Leaf.
I'm wondering what kind of larger scale changes we'll see coming in when EV penetration starts really making a dent in the overall GWh numbers passing through the grid during the off peak hours. At some point there won't be enough GWh left for everyone to get the cheapest rate so they'll need to have multiple tiers; or I guess suppliers will just slowly make the off peak rate less attractive in line with uptake so they can still keep a tolerable marginThis is the point of the recent push for 'smart' chargers. Reality in the first instance is to allow the stagger start of chargers to avoid all starting at once, the grid supply dropping and literally slowing such that the base frequency (50Hz) reduces and stuff starts to derate, stop and/or trip. Im planning if my wire gets annoying being 5m on mine to change to 8m. Remaining Type 2 of course but for power supply just a cable change or adapter would be sufficient. There is no real benefit to change anyway, limitation is the existing grid that goes to the house.
Mobile Phones are a great example how the market has changed, moved and learned from it. Certainly not a mistake to make again in the pursuit of reduced WEEE