Your experience with OLED burn-in

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That’s completely incorrect.

I’ve had many flagship LCD’s and more recently a KS8000 and B7 OLED.

None of the LCD’s would ever show image retention, the KS8000 could be left on a static image for hours with absolutely zero sign of retention. The B7 shows temporary image retention after a few minutes on a static background such as the Xbox dashboard.

The retention only lasts 30 seconds or so but it’s most definitely there and a big downside compared to LCD.
Have you calibrated your TV correctly? My parents B7 doesn’t exhibit that behaviour?
 
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Well my dads b6 panel has definitely suffered from burn in. If my link works Thats a clear yellow screen showing lots of green patches. Some arent visible on photo, like sky ep guide rectangle in bottom left corner.

My dads viewing habits are not excessive to any one channel, barely watches the news. The panel has had no gaming on it. He watches a lot of Netflix which doesnt have any permanent logo on it from what I see.

Very dissapointed. Hes now trying to get it sorted via warranty, which is proving difficult.

https://ibb.co/0nNty8T
 
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There's something called ULED XD which is worth keeping an eye on.
LED-based so no burn/retention, but almost OLED blacks.

When you say LED you mean LCD based, or is it a technology that uses millions of diodes like OLED?

Edit: ok, looks like it’s a quantum dot LCD like the rest of the non OLED “LED” screens.
 
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Well my dads b6 panel has definitely suffered from burn in. If my link works Thats a clear yellow screen showing lots of green patches. Some arent visible on photo, like sky ep guide rectangle in bottom left corner.

My dads viewing habits are not excessive to any one channel, barely watches the news. The panel has had no gaming on it. He watches a lot of Netflix which doesnt have any permanent logo on it from what I see.

Very dissapointed. Hes now trying to get it sorted via warranty, which is proving difficult.

https://ibb.co/0nNty8T

B6 is older and a lot of the reports regarding burn in on avforums is in regards to older panels. with each generation burn in has gotten significantly better.

the 7 and now 8 gen. this years 9 gen should be even better.

those that don't have burn in seem to be 7 and 8 gen users. but burn in also takes time so maybe the 7 and 8 gen simply haven't had as much usage as 6 gen users too.

which is why i recommend staying away until it's been confirmed 100% as fixed if you use a lot of static content. let others be the guinea pigs for now. i have been a guinea pig in the past with plasma and it wasn't good having to baby a screen.
 
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how are a few people on a specialist forum representative of the masses :confused:

If anything, it improves the chance of not seeing burn in - prosumers will be aware of the problems before hand, and will actively seek to mitigate the issues through preventative methods such as avoiding news channels; your average Joe may not

Burn in IS a problem, simply due to the nature of the technology. It's organic, and degrades, but at different rates - there isn't the same consistency you see with LEDs, for example, and so you can have 2 identically specced TVs running the same programmes, same settings etc, and one could get burn in, and other may not.

I've encountered burn in on most of my AMOLED devices: Nexus 6P, S7 Edge, S8 and Pixel 2 XL. My XS will likely get it too

On a phone, there's little you can do, but on a TV, I think you're less likely to see it, since you can avoid pretty much everything with static UIs. As someone who primarily plays video games on my TV, I'd definitely think twice about getting an OLED - I wouldn't want to drop >1K and run the RISK (not guaranteed!) of my TV becoming defective, especially since it isn't covered by LG under warranty.

I think ultimately I would end up getting one, because of the horrendous inconsistency of backlight clouding on LCDs and superior contrast ratio of OLED
 
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Even on my galaxy s8, there is no burn in, I've had it since November 2017 too.

My HTC one s had burn in near the end of its 2 year life though but it wasn't bad at all and the only time you could notice it was with all grey etc. slides on and squinting/looking really close at the screen.

As it is, I was worried big time when I first got my OLED TV but now, not in the slightest bit worried given how much time I've played HUD heavy games etc. and chances are when/if burn in does happen, it is going to be hardly noticeable with normal usage, much like the vertical banding on 5% grey slides, looks horrendous in photos but in normal usage, not an issue at all.
 
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I was referring to the post which mentions about avforums being a "specialist" forum.

The majority of the members on avsforums know how to use their TVs unlike the uninformed who just think they can stick their OLEDs at 80+ brightness and watch sky/CNN news for 7+ hours a day, not saying that avsforums is free from these type of people but there is a hell of a lot less of them than there is on avforums.

I think I have my OLED calibrated for 122cd^m2 at 53 Backlight and 70 contrast. Greyscale came in nicely about 0.5dE. Before that the contrast and backlight used to hurt my eyes while gaming it was that bloomin bright. My eyes would sting and water from it.

Never had any image retention gaming on it for 6 hours plus straight. Though I cannot comment on news channels as I never watch them since they're cesspit toxic channels.

OLED and Plasma though, still love the VT50 Plasma. It'll be 5 years soon. :D
 
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I have a three year old lg oled. I occasionally see some retention on it, but I don't have any permanent burn in.

I think as long as you are sensible with it, you won't see any problems.

However, I definitely wouldn't have bought an oled for extended console gaming. Mine mainly gets used for movies and TV series.

It's been a fantastic TV though.
 
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Nothing yet. Lots of long sittings with watermarks channels and lots of long gaming sessions. Not even a smidge of retention so far.
 
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If it's anything like plasma then if you're responsible enough retention will be a far bigger problem, you'd have to be totally mindless for burn in to happen but that's the problem really, you always have to be conscious of how it's being used and not just binge on something that has a static image on screen for days on end.
 
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They're much better than plasma in this regard. I had a bunch of panny plasmas over the years and while I never got burn in, there was a load of retention. With my OLED I've yet to see any retention at all, despite long HDR game sessions.
 

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They're much better than plasma in this regard. I had a bunch of panny plasmas over the years and while I never got burn in, there was a load of retention. With my OLED I've yet to see any retention at all, despite long HDR game sessions.

Yeah but Plasma clears after a minute or two. Mostly you see it more when first switched on.
 
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