Bioshock has DX10 features yes or no? friend says no...

MumboJumbo · 29 Aug 2007 at 14:59

Hey my friend just got the game and he said it was amazing. I said yeah its ment to look even better on dx10 (after seeing all the friends saying wow bioshock on dx10 amazing etc) but he says there is no dx10 options in the game?

So is there or insn't there?

helmutcheese · 29 Aug 2007 at 15:02

The Demo and Full game are both DX9 and DX10, tell him to learn the power of Google and edu himself, and take £20 off him for his ignorence.

P.S Install in Vista and dont change any settings in Vista or GPU Driver menu's and the game WILL be DX10.

MumboJumbo · 29 Aug 2007 at 15:05

Thanks. He always thinks he knows lots of things but is generaly always wrong lmao

helmutcheese · 29 Aug 2007 at 15:06

Unless you know what your doing, it is hard to make a DX10 game run in DX9 in Vista.

HeX · 29 Aug 2007 at 15:17

Bioshock does have some DX10 features, but not much you'd notice without it being pointed out.

Main differences are:

1) Watter ripples when you walk through it in DX10, in DX9 its the generic 'splashes' textures.

2) Smoke/Fire effects are cleaner in DX10.

3) Shaddows are slightly better in DX10.

Thats about it.

andshrew · 31 Aug 2007 at 08:08

helmutcheese said:
Unless you know what your doing, it is hard to make a DX10 game run in DX9 in Vista.

Right click the game icon in the games explorer and click 'Play - DX9'?

Kipper67 · 31 Aug 2007 at 08:26

8igdave said:
Hey my friend just got the game and he said it was amazing. I said yeah its ment to look even better on dx10 (after seeing all the friends saying wow bioshock on dx10 amazing etc) but he says there is no dx10 options in the game?

So is there or insn't there?

Playing it with a gamepad ?

As if you plug in a pad it also alters the menu and hides the DX10 and other PC graphics features.

ArchAnGeL · 31 Aug 2007 at 10:03

here you go
http://www.bit-tech.net/gaming/2007/08/30/bioshock_gameplay_graphics_and_performance/7
get him to read that

peetee · 31 Aug 2007 at 11:02

Kipper67 said:
Playing it with a gamepad ?

As if you plug in a pad it also alters the menu and hides the DX10 and other PC graphics features.

is that because only noobs use pads and they dont want them to break anything?

haha

HeX · 31 Aug 2007 at 13:01

peetee said:
is that because only noobs use pads and they dont want them to break anything? haha

Just basically turns it into the 360 interface.

Personally I play it with a pad so I can sit back with my feet up and enjoy it, instead of hunched over a keyboard...

And its not like accuracy is vital in Bioshock...

LoadsaMoney · 31 Aug 2007 at 17:58

It doesn't have a Dx10 option as it autodetects, if you run it on Vista with a Dx10 card it will run in Dx10, with a Dx9 card, Dx9.

Heres the differences here http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/bioshock_directx10_performance/ Yes thats it.

Deffo not worth £400+ that.

DaveOwl · 31 Aug 2007 at 18:05

It's a little more vital if you turn off auto aim on the PC version (stupidly enabled by default)

Energize · 31 Aug 2007 at 20:05

8igdave said:
Hey my friend just got the game and he said it was amazing. I said yeah its ment to look even better on dx10 (after seeing all the friends saying wow bioshock on dx10 amazing etc) but he says there is no dx10 options in the game?

So is there or insn't there?

Lets take a look at another question.

Does directx 10 look any better anyway?

No.

helmutcheese · 31 Aug 2007 at 20:13

IMO some aspects of that game do look better in DX10, it never claimed to be fully DX10 effect laden, thats Crysis.

And how can you even tell if you are using a DX9C card ? (please do not say PICs or Vids on WWW)

modo77 · 31 Aug 2007 at 20:21

Energize said:
Lets take a look at another question.

Does directx 10 look any better anyway?

No.

Erm yes it does, its not much different. But how anyone can say its not better is beyond me.

The water, smoke and shadows are a bit better in dx10.

Energize · 31 Aug 2007 at 20:31

modo77 said:
Erm yes it does, its not much different. But how anyone can say its not better is beyond me.

The water, smoke and shadows are a bit better in dx10.

When you have to look for the differences then I say the improvement is negligible. In real life shadows are not sharp, so sharper shadows doesn't mean it's better. In fact I believe the higher graphical settings in some games make the shadows softer.

modo77 · 31 Aug 2007 at 20:35

The low res of youtube doesn't help. However when walking through the water and it ripples out behind you is a hell of a lot better than the dx9 bit. And I did say it wasn't a big difference but it is better.

wellibob · 31 Aug 2007 at 20:54

The fact remains the game will play aswell in both. Play and enjoy i think is in order.

helmutcheese · 31 Aug 2007 at 20:57

Energize, You dont have a DX10 card so cant tell, and do you go by the quality of a TV picture viewing on a TV advert on another TV?

Again there is some differences, but the game aint as DX10 as Crysis and dX10 is NOT all about eyecandy, its about unification so ATI/Nvidia and game makers can try get most out of hardware and have less a frame hit.

peetee · 31 Aug 2007 at 21:00

its already been stated numerous times that DX10 is generally there as a platform unification, instead of everyone going in a different direction, meaning life being harder for programmers etc.
As a result of this we have been told to expect slight improvements in visuals, but, the best part, at less of a performance hit..
Thats good, because it means then they can develop things that they could not before due to graphics card not having spare power to utilise..