Demand for sub £100 PC?

[Royality]

Don't forget that your idea can be copied by any of the major computer manufacturers. If you begin having any semblance of success they'll simply copy your idea and out advertise you. They'll even sell at a loss if it means taking control of a niche market which could result in bringing in more customers or future sales.

At least that's what 'Dragon's Den' has taught me.

 

[Glaucus]

Yep there are loads of second hand or refurbished older tech units. I'm talking brand new stuff though. Personally I would hate the idea of buying a second hand PC (as I'm sure a lot of other people do).

I'm talking brand new, they're usually the people who sale 2nd hand stuff as well.

The base price would be £99. That would be a fully built, software installed, working out the box unit

it's not fully working as 98% will want windows at least and probably office as well. Most people can't upgrade, so the upgrade thing isn't really worth much.

 

[AdladUK]

Don't forget that your idea can be copied by any of the major computer manufacturers. If you begin having any semblance of success they'll simply copy your idea and out advertise you. They'll even sell at a loss if it means taking control of a niche market which could result in bringing in more customers or future sales.

At least that's what 'Dragon's Den' has taught me.

hehe true true

But that could happen with any good business idea or site. Look how many people copied digg.com at the first sign of success that had

Imitation shouldn't be a reason for you to give in

 

[Tefal]

AcidHell2: no offense m8, but you can pretty much find an opposite side for everything.

If people want to play games then they can add-on a dedicated graphics card. No biggie.

If people want to download large files then they can upgrade to a larger hard drive. Again no biggie.

You can't expect the world for £99.

It's a good, basic, up to date system, which can be added to/upgraded for a low price

Can't see the problem with that

But if they using open office it will butcher word docs a lot of the time, so that, they will find it hard to do work with people that use word *ie the rest of the world.

 

[AdladUK]

I'm talking brand new, they're usually the people who sale 2nd hand stuff as well.

Surely some of these people have sites or an online presense? Because if so I would really like to see them. The cheapest unit I've been able to find online is £154

it's not fully working as 98% will want windows at least and probably office as well. Most people can't upgrade, so the upgrade thing isn't really worth much.

Then they can have Windows. I'll pre-install that for them too...

Any hardware upgrade would be offered BEFORE they received the PC. If they wanted to order an 80GB hard drive instead of 40, then fine. £5 extra (or whatever) and it will all be installed and delivered as usual

 

[AdladUK]

But if they using open office it will butcher word docs a lot of the time, so that, they will find it hard to do work with people that use word *ie the rest of the world.

Then they can install Microsoft Office... What's stopping them?

 

[DAVEM]

Spec isn't too bad... 2.8GHz CPU, 256MB DDR memory, 40GB hard drive

Yeah it's basic... But would still run fine (and it's fully upgradeable)

Yep there are loads of second hand or refurbished older tech units. I'm talking brand new stuff though. Personally I would hate the idea of buying a second hand PC (as I'm sure a lot of other people do).

The base price would be £99. That would be a fully built, software installed, working out the box unit

If you wanted keyboard, mouse, speakers, and TFT monitor it would be £70 extra (although the 3 example target audiences I gave probably wouldn't need that)

I dont mean to moan at you m8, but seriously you cant get a decent gaming system by adding a decent GPU to a system with 256MB of RAM. You need to understand hardware infrastructure, adding a decent (512MB ATI card for example will cost you £50) to that machine is POINTLESS.

256MB RAM was adequate two years ago, modern systems really need 1GB and that includes Linux OS's.

That PC will be hopeless, the customer is better off spending £250.

This idea is pointless. Seriously dont bother. I'm not trying to be nasty at all. But on this, you're just wrong.

Seriously drop it, and think of something new.

And no it's NOT fully upgradable! it couldn't be, you'd need a motherboard costing more than the PC to be fully upgradable.

Stop fibbing, be honest it'd be a crap piece with a cheap price tag.

OO is no match for MS Office, Linux is not as mature as XP (let alone Vista and OS X).

Sometimes you wake up and think you've got the next best idea, and sometimes it turns out you're wrong. a lot of us on OCuK know our technology domain, listen, think and discard this idea. Trust me, stop wasting your time.

 

[AdladUK]

I dont mean to moan at you m8, but seriously you cant get a decent gaming system by adding a decent GPU to a system with 256MB of RAM. You need to understand hardware infrastructure, adding a decent (512MB ATI card for example will cost you £50) to that machine is POINTLESS.

256MB RAM was adequate two years ago, modern systems really need 1GB and that includes Linux OS's.

That PC will be hopeless, the customer is better off spending £250.

This idea is pointless. Seriously dont bother. I'm not trying to be nasty at all. But on this, you're just wrong.

Seriously drop it, and think of something new.

And no it's NOT fully upgradable! it couldn't be, you'd need a motherboard costing more than the PC to be fully upgradable.

Stop fibbing, be honest it'd be a crap piece with a cheap price tag.

OO is no match for MS Office, Linux is not as mature as XP (let alone Vista and OS X).

Sometimes you wake up and think you've got the next best idea, and sometimes it turns out you're wrong. a lot of us on OCuK know our technology domain, listen, think and discard this idea. Trust me, stop wasting your time.

heh well I guess there's always 1 person who thinks your idea is absolute ****

256MB DDR memory is completely fine to run Linux. It's completely fine to run Windows 98 as well.

A small upgrade to 512MB (costing less than £10) would mean you could run XP perfectly. Heck I've only got 512MB in my current 2nd system and it runs great

I think just saying an idea is "hopeless" and the PC would be "completely useless" is a bit silly

Most the PCs in the UK at the moment probably have worse specs than this

Not fully upgradeable? Yeah it is. You can add up to 2GB of memory, 500GB hard drive, any AGP graphics card (there are still some decent AGP graphics cards out there), DVD-RW, any P4 CPU

And if you're going to go that far it's a completely different market/computer anyway

 

[AdladUK]

OO is no match for MS Office, Linux is not as mature as XP (let alone Vista and OS X).

No but they're both free, and for a lot of people that's enough

Nothing would be stopping them installing Microsoft Office or Windows

 

[Glaucus]

No but they're both free, and for a lot of people that's enough

Nothing would be stopping them installing Microsoft Office or Windows

no for most people it's not enough, for power users it's fine.

Do you even sale computers, windows 98 and agp

 

[Tefal]

Then they can install Microsoft Office... What's stopping them?

well since their buying a 99£ pc the price i would assume and the lack of knowledge to install it.

 

[AdladUK]

no for most people it's not enough, for power users it's fine.

Do you even sale computers, windows 98 and agp

heh do you even know how many people still use Windows 98 or have AGP graphics cards?

I think you would be VERY suprised if you actually did some research on numbers.

I'm not DEMANDING people run 98 or DEMANDING people run OpenOffice. Geez!

I'm giving people options for the lowest cost available

 

[AdladUK]

well since their buying a 99£ pc the price i would assume and the lack of knowledge to install it.

Oh right okay. Well then pretty much every person who buys a pre-built PC has a complete lack of knowledge when it comes to installing software

I guess that's why every town and city has multiple PC repair/install centres

 

[DAVEM]

heh well I guess there's always 1 person who thinks your idea is absolute ****

256MB DDR memory is completely fine to run Linux. It's completely fine to run Windows 98 as well.

A small upgrade to 512MB (costing less than £10) would mean you could run XP perfectly. Heck I've only got 512MB in my current 2nd system and it runs great

I think just saying an idea is "hopeless" and the PC would be "completely useless" is a bit silly

Most the PCs in the UK at the moment probably have worse specs than this

Fully upgradeable? Yeah it is. You can add up to 2GB of memory, 500GB hard drive, any AGP graphics card (there are still some decent AGP graphics cards out there), DVD-RW, any P4 CPU

And if you're going to go that far it's a completely different market/computer anyway

you answer no questions.

your system is NOT fully upgradable,

HDD's are ALREADY available at 750GB, so stating your system is fully upgradable IS WRONG

AGP is no longer used - again your point saying fully upgradable is WRONG.

You are totally wrong!

 

[Tefal]

heh do you even know how many people still use Windows 98 or have AGP graphics cards?

I think you would be VERY suprised if you actually did some research on numbers.

I'm not DEMANDING people run 98 or DEMANDING people run OpenOffice. Geez!

I'm giving people options for the lowest cost available

But if all they want is to do word style things they probably already have a pc for that, or could get someones old one with word for virtually nothing or even for free.

 

[Glaucus]

heh do you even know how many people still use Windows 98 or have AGP graphics cards?

I think you would be VERY suprised if you actually did some research on numbers.

thats due to old systems, there not going to get something new which runs 98.

I'm not DEMANDING people run 98 or DEMANDING people run OpenOffice. Geez!

I'm giving people options for the lowest cost available

]It's one and the same thing with the people who are likely to buy such a computer.

 

[AdladUK]

you answer no questions.

your system is NOT fully upgradable,

HDD's are ALREADY available at 750GB, so stating your system is fully upgradable IS WRONG

AGP is no longer used - again your point saying fully upgradable is WRONG.

You are totally wrong!

Cool!

Okay since you need every little word defining to the nth degree I will rephrase...

The £99 PC is upgradable WITHIN REASON

That better?

 

[Tefal]

Oh right okay. Well then pretty much every person who buys a pre-built PC has a complete lack of knowledge when it comes to installing software

I guess that's why every town and city has multiple PC repair/install centres

well if they bought a pc for £99 quid why would they spend £300 on word when for £450 (hell even £300) they could get a decent pc with word free?

 

[AdladUK]

But if all they want is to do word style things they probably already have a pc for that, or could get someones old one with word for virtually nothing or even for free.

So what you're saying is there is absoutely no market for budget PCs?

 

[Duke]

There will always be demand for the cheapest of any item. Some people will just look at the price and buy without asking any questions.