Premium with HDMI?

No need to get aggressive and abusive, Kreeeee mentioned cost effective not me.

Your the one suggesting they recall current stock to be repaired, where does it go once its repaired? errr back to the shops surely. You want MS to take all current stock to repair, now clearly if they did that they have to replace the current stock with the new HDMI console, I guess you never thought it through too well.
Oh my god, i'm at a loss for words, read my intitial post properly then reply, big sigh.
 
Wouldn't it be sensible for MS to recall all the exsisting stock of 360's and ship them to repair centres? New cutomers get HDMI and new heatsink design, current cutomers don't have to wait 35 days for theirs to be fixed, just a thought...

Ok so your wanting MS to recall all current none HDMI stock and send to repair to be given the new heatsink....correct

Now if they pull all that stock for repair, they will have to replace that stock with the new heatsink design....correct

Now once the old stock is repaired with the new heatsink, where does it go.....back into the shops....correct

MS do not replace your console you send for repair with a new one, so why would this affect the repair times, would it not increase them considering your now expecting them to fix how many thousand more consoles.....correct

So lay off the insults your the one making the silly comments.
 
Kreeeee did then you questioned it :-)

So what's your thinking behind this idea, double the stock to cut repair times by 20 days or so?

Indeed, my point was it's more cost effective to repair them as they come in rather than have stock sitting there. It may not me time effective or provide great customer satisfaction (if they were worried about that they wouldn't break in the first place :p) but profits uber alles.
 
Ok so your wanting MS to recall all current none HDMI stock and send to repair to be given the new heatsink....correct.
No, not correct, absolutely wrong, i said nothing of the sort.

Now if they pull all that stock for repair, they will have to replace that stock with the new heatsink design....correct.
As you were wrong on the first point, you're wrong on that too.

Now once the old stock is repaired with the new heatsink, where does it go.....back into the shops....correct
As above, wrong again.

MS do not replace your console you send for repair with a new one, so why would this affect the repair times, would it not increase them considering your now expecting them to fix how many thousand more consoles.....correct.
Actually if your console is beyond repair, they do replace it. Which doesn't matter because as you've got it all wrong so far this is point is void.

So lay off the insults your the one making the silly comments.
You're the one making silly comments because you have read my first post, got it wrong, kept getting it wrong and based your whole argument on your own ideas on what you 'thought' I meant. Insults? You insulted yourself with your own lack of 'think before you type'
 
No, not correct, absolutely wrong, i said nothing of the sort.

Wouldn't it be sensible for MS to recall all the exsisting stock of 360's and ship them to repair centres? New cutomers get HDMI and new heatsink design, current cutomers don't have to wait 35 days for theirs to be fixed, just a thought...

Explain how I am wrong, you think it would be sensible to send all existing stock to repair, there is your quote, you clearly say recall all existing stock and send to repair, clearly you said it, so why are you lying?

So again I will ask you, if they follow your shining example of good business and recall all existing stock and send for repair, do you suggest they leave shops with no consoles to sell, bright idea that aint it. LOL And again I will ask you how sending thousands of consoles for repair to already overloaded repair centres will speed up the repair process for current customers...LOL

Your probably best to just give up with this one, you made a rather silly comment and now are trying to deny it rather than just admit it, it's ok to admit you were wrong, no big deal.
 
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woah chill guys, it doesn't matter lol.

Getting more to the point of the thread....I'm planning on buying my first 360 in the near future, should I wait for the new premium with new heatsink etc? or is that going to take months to arrive and so would I be better just getting a premium now?
 
woah chill guys, it doesn't matter lol.

Getting more to the point of the thread....I'm planning on buying my first 360 in the near future, should I wait for the new premium with new heatsink etc? or is that going to take months to arrive and so would I be better just getting a premium now?

The elite has the new cooling system fitted now.


http://benheck.com/07-12-2007/inside-the-xbox-360-elite
 
Yea but the elite has a bigger hdd etc and I don't really want to spend that much money.
 
woah chill guys, it doesn't matter lol.

Getting more to the point of the thread....I'm planning on buying my first 360 in the near future, should I wait for the new premium with new heatsink etc? or is that going to take months to arrive and so would I be better just getting a premium now?


Just get one now. All new Premiums will have the heatsink / mobo revisions but it's going to be hit/miss for a while whether you'll get one or not. At the end of the day though, it's still the same box and plays the same games and there's still a good chance even with the old revision you'll not have a problem (Mine, Nokkons etc are/were well over 20 months old).

MS are revising the console the whole time with small changes, different makes of DVD drive and fan (though sometimes newer doesn't necessarily mean better (the newer Elites have noisier fans for example)) and remember you're covered should something go wrong.

Get one now and start catching up with some of the great games you've missed before the Autumn / Winter line up swamps us.
 
Explain how I am wrong, you think it would be sensible to send all existing stock to repair, there is your quote, you clearly say recall all existing stock and send to repair, clearly you said it, so why are you lying?
No Mr Men, this is my quote
Wouldn't it be sensible for MS to recall all the exsisting stock of 360's and ship them to repair centres? New customers get HDMI and new heatsink design, current customers don't have to wait 35 days for theirs to be fixed, just a thought...
Where there do I say to 'repair' exsisting stock? CLEARLY I don't say it, how CLEAR can you not see it? I say send it to repair centres, nothing more, is that CLEAR to you now? So obviously I am not lying as is CLEARY shown, is that explanation ok for you?

So again I will ask you, if they follow your shining example of good business and recall all existing stock and send for repair, do you suggest they leave shops with no consoles to sell, bright idea that aint it. LOL And again I will ask you how sending thousands of consoles for repair to already overloaded repair centres will speed up the repair process for current customers...LOL
As has been shown above, I did not mention the word 'repair' so the only suggestion of empty shops and even more overloaded repair centres is your stupidity in not reading my original post properly.

Your probably best to just give up with this one, you made a rather silly comment and now are trying to deny it rather than just admit it, it's ok to admit you were wrong, no big deal.
I like this one :)

Ok my last post on this matter, just to CLEAR thing up for you Mr Men, just So you don't have to invent, assume or dream anymore fairytales. Firstly take a look at my original post (quoted again for you) My point was, the current stock in shops are still the old design, more prone to failure models, agreed? Now what's the chance of these failing and getting sent to MS for repair? As high as always, ok? Now as we know, there is a huge backlog already at MS repair centres with people waiting up to 35 days for their console back.
Say, for example MS send 50 new HDMI equipped premiums (with new heatsink design) to a shop, the shop puts their old stock on the same lorry that just brought the new ones, the lorry goes back to where it came from and the old stock goes to repair centre 'x'. So the shop now has better designed and less likely to 'die' 360's in stock, agreed?
Now, the advantages of this? The MS repair centre uses those 50 new 360's and sends them out to customers who's 360's have died and are not fixable. This helps reduces the backlog of repairs, also because the shop has sold people the newer design consoles, these, in turn are less likely to break and end up in the repair centre themselves... The point is my fluffly little friend, new customers get new design, old customers get consoles back quicker from repair. I never said anything about changing new 360's to the new design, I never said anything about repairing new consoles, if you had simply read my first post, or even just asked exactly what I meant instead of mouthing off and throwing loads of assumed claims around this could all have been avoided.
 
Yea but the elite has a bigger hdd etc and I don't really want to spend that much money.
If you buy one now it's a gamble, you can always buy one, take it home and have a look to see if it is the new design. If not, take it back, get your money back and buy another one, take it home, have a look... You get the idea.
 
JBeck your initial post was very badly worded if thats what you were trying to convey. If you had just explained yourself properly initially the argument wouldn't have been needed.
 
LOL JBeck

So your now saying you want all the existing stock to be sent to those customers that are waiting for repairs? But as already said you don't get a new machine unless totally needed, which aint often. As they just repair your current one, and put in the new heatsink, which I think is better than being sent an old machine just as likely to fail again would you not say.

I'm glad your done though, as your point is still silly and not very feasible.:)
 
I agree, it's much better to repair the console than have lots of new ones rotting away waiting to replace broken ones. They're just as likely to break as the ones they are replacing if the new heatsinks aren't added.
 
Indeed, but it would clear the initial backlog and give new customers some gaurantee that they would be getting the improved design, happy customers are what counts.

Mr Men - I never said it was 'the' thing to do and would solve all problems, again if you check my initial post you'll see it was 'just a thought'

Shamikebab - It was just a quick reply, if someone had asked (and not ranted like a child) exactly what I meant then I would have happily explained.
 
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