Mclaren might be in the poo big time [ANCIENT THREAD REVIVAL]
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I wouldn't say that, probably the most famous car maker in the world, I imagine they are the most popular team in this "sport."
I just wish they weren't such ****s.
I'm confused: how is being told things about another maufacturers car cheating? Fair enough stealing the information, but being told it by someone surely isnt a crime?
and another point, all the other teams use maclaren electrics in their cars if i remember correctly due to some patent, funny if maclaren pulled their rights to use it
That's the standard ECU that's going to be used next year.
I'm confused: how is being told things about another maufacturers car cheating? Fair enough stealing the information, but being told it by someone surely isnt a crime?
and another point, all the other teams use maclaren electrics in their cars if i remember correctly due to some patent, funny if maclaren pulled their rights to use it
Wudn't be much of a loss. People like Renault and Ferrari have been questioning this move for a while now.
How do we know this isn't all just a setup by Ferrari? They could have paid Stepney a shed load to leak the data to McLaren and then they would have a fall back reason to still win the Constructors title if their car was no match for McLaren's (which we all know it wasn't).
The whole scandal stinks of cover-up, misdirection and cheating - not by the allegedly 'guilty' party though.
People just forget that it was actually a Ferrari employee that started this all off. Shouldn't Ferrari also get some sort of punishment for not keeping their intellectual property secure?
The whole scandal stinks of cover-up, misdirection and cheating - not by the allegedly 'guilty' party though.
People just forget that it was actually a Ferrari employee that started this all off. Shouldn't Ferrari also get some sort of punishment for not keeping their intellectual property secure?
I just take Solice in the fact the Luca De montezemolo said that Kimi would win the Drivers world championship last year, and that ain't going to happen.
If Ferrari are happy winning a hollow WCC then so-be-it, everyone will know that they had to resort to the courts. After all, the information was not recieved until march time so no Ferrari went into the '07 car. The information was used to demonstrate to the FIA that the Ferrari floor was illegal and to get a few more rule clarifications.
If Ferrari are happy winning a hollow WCC then so-be-it, everyone will know that they had to resort to the courts. After all, the information was not recieved until march time so no Ferrari went into the '07 car. The information was used to demonstrate to the FIA that the Ferrari floor was illegal and to get a few more rule clarifications.
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Bah, no fair. I was looking forward to the drama of having them excluded from next year.
This does however mean my end of season bonus is twice as big as it would have been (in that we go from fourth to third)
This does however mean my end of season bonus is twice as big as it would have been (in that we go from fourth to third)
This does however mean my end of season bonus is twice as big as it would have been (in that we go from fourth to third)
Whoop
Bah, no fair. I was looking forward to the drama of having them excluded from next year.
This does however mean my end of season bonus is twice as big as it would have been (in that we go from fourth to third)
It's dirty money that you will be getting though. No less dirty than Mafia money really.
Bah, no fair. I was looking forward to the drama of having them excluded from next year.
This does however mean my end of season bonus is twice as big as it would have been (in that we go from fourth to third)
Its not over yet
PRESS INFORMATION - 13 March 2007
Paris, France, Thursday 13th September 2007
“The most important thing is that we will be going motor racing this weekend, the rest of the season and every season. This means that our drivers can continue to compete for the World Championship. However having been at the hearing today I do not accept that we deserved to be penalised in this way.”
“Today’s evidence given to the FIA by our drivers, engineers and staff clearly demonstrated that we did not use any leaked information to gain a competitive advantage.”
“Much has been made in the press and at the hearing today of emails and text messages to and from our drivers. The World Motorsport Council received statements from Fernando Alonso, Lewis Hamilton and Pedro de la Rosa stating categorically that no Ferrari information had been used by McLaren and that they had not passed any confidential data to the team.”
“The entire engineering team in excess of 140 people provided statements to the FIA affirming that they had never received or used the Ferrari information.”
“We have never denied that the information from Ferrari was in the personal possession of one of our employees at his home. The issue is: was this information used by McLaren? This is not the case and has not been proven today.”
“We are also continually asked if McLaren didn’t use the information, what was the reason for Stepney and Coughlan collecting all this data about Ferrari? We can only speculate as neither Coughlan nor Stepney gave evidence at today’s hearing, but we do know that they were both seeking employment with other teams, as already confirmed by both Honda and Toyota.”
“There will be no issue for the 2008 season as we have not at any stage used any intellectual property of any other team.”
“We have got the best drivers and the best car and we intend to win the World Championship.”
- ENDS -
Paris, France, Thursday 13th September 2007
“The most important thing is that we will be going motor racing this weekend, the rest of the season and every season. This means that our drivers can continue to compete for the World Championship. However having been at the hearing today I do not accept that we deserved to be penalised in this way.”
“Today’s evidence given to the FIA by our drivers, engineers and staff clearly demonstrated that we did not use any leaked information to gain a competitive advantage.”
“Much has been made in the press and at the hearing today of emails and text messages to and from our drivers. The World Motorsport Council received statements from Fernando Alonso, Lewis Hamilton and Pedro de la Rosa stating categorically that no Ferrari information had been used by McLaren and that they had not passed any confidential data to the team.”
“The entire engineering team in excess of 140 people provided statements to the FIA affirming that they had never received or used the Ferrari information.”
“We have never denied that the information from Ferrari was in the personal possession of one of our employees at his home. The issue is: was this information used by McLaren? This is not the case and has not been proven today.”
“We are also continually asked if McLaren didn’t use the information, what was the reason for Stepney and Coughlan collecting all this data about Ferrari? We can only speculate as neither Coughlan nor Stepney gave evidence at today’s hearing, but we do know that they were both seeking employment with other teams, as already confirmed by both Honda and Toyota.”
“There will be no issue for the 2008 season as we have not at any stage used any intellectual property of any other team.”
“We have got the best drivers and the best car and we intend to win the World Championship.”
- ENDS -
Damn, be interesting to see what becomes of McLaren.
hehe.. http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=10086006&postcount=213.. i smite you with my speed and might.. and better quality image..
We'll find out tomorrow.
