15 months in jail.... for graffiti

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Thomas Dolan, 20, and Thomas Whittaker, 18, both from Macclesfield, Cheshire, caused about £13,000 damage.

Both admitted criminal damage at Manchester Crown Court and were jailed for 15 and 12 months respectively.

Denise Dolan said she knows her son did wrong but insists the punishment does not fit the crime.

The pair caused about £13,000 worth of damage

The men were traced after British Transport Police (BTP) tracked website postings of their work.

Dolan used the graffiti name, or tag, of Krek and Whittaker went by the name of Mers.

They were responsible for graffiti on trains, stations and railway property in Gatley, Bury, Buxton, Wigan, Macclesfield, Stockport and Longsight.

Denise Dolan has even offered to pay for the damage caused by her son.

She said: "As parents, we offered to pay the money just to keep them out of prison, so that my son could go to university which he should have started this week.

"The British Transport Police just dismissed it.
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That is one excessive sentence. Considering drivers who have killed people on the road only getting a few months, even weeks in some case, this sentence just seems ridiculous to me.
 
Given punishments for other crimes, that does seem a little harsh.

Looks like they are just being made examples of.
 
Just setting an example but it is excessive.

I think most of its crap anyway, there are set places to do this sort of thing, persistently flouting the law then crying when your caught :mad:
 
Not excessive at all. They have caused more than 13k damage, through all there graffiti. I expect there also repeat offenders.
As well as trespassing on railway and other property. Tresspasing on a railway in itself has hefty punishment.
 
To be honest they know graffitti is a crime and this sentence imo is perfect for the bill the damage they have caused is essentially one years pay... so hopefully judges will be more likely to hand out harsher sentences on murderers and rapists who only seem to be getting 2-10years these days.
 
Given how lenient some sentences are it may seem a little harsh, however I'm glad they've been jailed. Graffiti isn't art. And at £13,000 damage, they deserve everything they get.
 
They'll be out for good behaviour (if they behave well of course) in 3-6 months.

I must admit I'm fed up with people who do get away with a slap on the wrists, however this does seem a little harsh - though we don't know the full details of this.



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"I've spoken to Tom and he said the prison wardens and officers all agree, they said they shouldn't be there."
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They shouldn't be painting other people's property, I think it is completely fair and will hopefully show them that causing an inconvenience to the transport company will cause an inconvenience to their own lives.
 
I'm getting really sick of graffiti to be honest. It really does make the area look bad. I guarantee you though that after they get out they won't do it again.

While I agree that the time is excessive relative to other crimes I feel that if the prisons weren't so full that the time would be appropriate. However more important criminals need to be locked up not these two muppets.

Dev
 
Actually sitting back and thinking how many millions of pounds of criminal damage are caused each year? How many kids injure themselves trespassing and then the company has to pay out to make changes to ensure it doesn’t happen again.

I've changed my mind, little *****, oh and, I also lay blame on the parents too :D
 
its only harsh in comparison to what other crimes get. its fair as like someone has said they have caused 13k worth of damages, probably over many years, trespassing etc so 15 months fits perfectly imo. did they get fined at all for that ior are the tax payers going to pay to clean it?
 
AcidHell2 said:
Not excessive at all. They have caused more than 13k damage, through all there graffiti. I expect there also repeat offenders.
As well as trespassing on railway and other property. Tresspasing on a railway in itself has hefty punishment.
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And now we have to keep them alive for 13 months.. Thats a hefty sum.
 
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