Morrisons FTL

WrathOfAchilles · 20 Sep 2007 at 10:13

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/7003325.stm

"Supermarket staff refused to sell alcohol to a white-haired 72-year-old man - because he would not confirm he was over 21......."

This is the dumbest thing I have ever read!

Nuke Morrisons for orbit TBH.

Marty

platypus · 20 Sep 2007 at 10:14

Had to laugh at this. I have only ever been ID'd once, and that was when I didn't have a beard

Droolinggimp · 20 Sep 2007 at 10:15

I said this would happen in a previous thread.

Staff have 100% backing from management.

Quote:
Originally Posted by a1ex2001
congratulations, three years seems like a lot of training for you to then volunteer is there no money in this for you? If not hats off to you for being so generous with your time.

I always find being ID'd amusing being 28 and looking it I tend to laugh and then ask to see the manager as I don't carry ID to much hastle if someone pinches my wallet!

Originally Posted by Droolinggimp
Not disagreeing with you here, but at work (Morrisons) the Manager gives 100% backing support to the checkout people. If one of the C/O persons ask a customer for ID and the customer plays up about it they get removed from the store, after being explained the situation. So if you are 80 years old and get asked ID and you not got any. Your buggered lol.

RockLobster · 20 Sep 2007 at 10:16

haha bloody jobsworths.

Velocity · 20 Sep 2007 at 10:16

Thats funny.

Also the statement from Morrisions at the bottom of the article is also quite amusing.

They seemed to have missed the point about this bloke looking 72.

Dave M · 20 Sep 2007 at 10:21

They've got caught before, getting caught again could mean they lose their license to sell alcohol - considering what a disaster that would be they've made everybody prove their age.

That includes grumpy old men.

PsiFox · 20 Sep 2007 at 10:23

Thought they were selling Faster Than Light drives for a moment

Droolinggimp · 20 Sep 2007 at 10:25

Telescopi said:
They've got caught before, getting caught again could mean they lose their license to sell alcohol - considering what a disaster that would be they've made everybody prove their age.

That includes grumpy old men.

We have been caught quite a few times.. We have upped the measures to prevent this from happening again including refusing to sell booze to people who look like they are already drunk/could cause trouble and known people who hang around on streets. This applies to our store maybe other but as the store I work at has been done before the senior team are taking no chances.

Muffin` · 20 Sep 2007 at 10:26

If they don't have a strict policy then it leaves it to the discretion of the checkout staff, they are checkout staff for a reason (old retired [don't care], you teenagers [who have friends] etc). It shouldn't be needed on a 72 year old man, but the person on the till were doing their job as was the management - not leaving the company open.

Bill101 · 20 Sep 2007 at 10:27

He does look a youthful 72 not!

Droolinggimp · 20 Sep 2007 at 10:33

At least that store has got the staff to ask EVERYONE for ID when purchasing alcohol. It didnt seem to be a one off.

I think that fair tbh. I was in a queue a few weeks ago and the woman in front of me had some lager along with foodstuff and was promtly asked for ID. She didnt have any and, to me, looked 21 but very close to it. She told the checkout person she understood the procedure and wasnt in anyway annoyed about it all, she was doing her job.

If it stops young people drinking then it must be a good thing.

platypus · 20 Sep 2007 at 10:33

If its store policy to ID anyone buying alcohol, I don't really see the problem to be honest. Unless he's never shopped there before, he should know better.

Sic · 20 Sep 2007 at 10:34

he doesn't look 72 though!! I'd put him at late 50s. not that that's the point

Tk7 · 20 Sep 2007 at 10:35

I'm sure hundreds of older people are asked the same question everyday, and have no problem answering it. They'd be the first to complain about underage drinkers etc..

Just because one idiot decides to complain about it, doesn't make it worthy of being in the news.

Lysander · 20 Sep 2007 at 10:39

platypus said:
If its store policy to ID anyone buying alcohol, I don't really see the problem to be honest. Unless he's never shopped there before, he should know better.

I think it's a load of bull. And he's right - it is bureaucracy gone mad. You don't need to ask someone who is clearly overage whether they are fit to buy alcohol. It's senseless.

It's like being asked whether you can speak fluent English or if your full-time residence is Planet Earth and if you can't prove either they'll shove you out the door. Absolute rubbish.

platypus · 20 Sep 2007 at 10:42

Lysander said:
I think it's a load of bull. And he's right - it is bureaucracy gone mad. You don't need to ask someone who is clearly overage whether they are fit to buy alcohol. It's senseless.

It's like being asked whether you can speak fluent English or if your full-time residence is Planet Earth and if you can't prove either they'll shove you out the door. Absolute rubbish.

No, it's a simple case of where you would draw the line. You ID every alcohol purchase or leave it up to the discretion of the teller. Due to the area this store is located in, they took the decision to ask everyone purchasing alcohol for ID. If he doesn't like it he can shop elsewhere.

Lord_Kokain · 20 Sep 2007 at 10:51

It's like being asked whether you can speak fluent English or if your full-time residence is Planet Earth and if you can't prove either they'll shove you out the door. Absolute rubbish.

But that can happen actually...a friend of mine couldnt apply for a citizenship because he neither has done his secondary education in Britain nor is passed certain English language exams that the Home Office asks for, yet he speaks perfect English.Its ironic because most British folk are the same in terms of English language qualifications(or even have none at all) and their only written proof that would by default count them as English speakers is their country of birth, stated in their documents.

But on the subject, yeah it seems too far! The only case I could think of refusing to sell alcohol to such person is if he is suspected to buy it to someone else but then the ID plays no role in such situation.

coolpunkskater · 20 Sep 2007 at 10:55

Mr Ralls said: "It is bureaucracy gone mad. If the check-out lady, who was about 40, had asked me with a twinkle in her eye perhaps I would not have been so tetchy.

tee hee "dirty old man gets asked for id" is what it should read as lol

IamMed · 20 Sep 2007 at 11:51

A Morrisons spokesman said: "We take our responsibility with regard to selling alcohol very seriously and all our stores operate the Task 21 scheme, which addresses the difficulties our staff face in being able to determine if a customer is legally old enough to buy alcohol.

Maybe they should have a scheme where they employ staff with a brain?

el_dazza · 20 Sep 2007 at 11:53

platypus said:
No, it's a simple case of where you would draw the line. You ID every alcohol purchase or leave it up to the discretion of the teller. Due to the area this store is located in, they took the decision to ask everyone purchasing alcohol for ID. If he doesn't like it he can shop elsewhere.

Sorry, but it's ridiculous, however you look at it. Tesco's enforce a policy that if you look under 25, you will be ID'd, othersw it's 21. There has to be a line, and this is stepping way over it. Have they not heard of a thing called "common sense", or are they relying on their manager's word to allow them to use that too? :rolleyes:

That rolleyes wasn't aimed at you, before you get grumpy.. i know some people do

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