How can you justify a 2 grand gaming pc?

[leon4112]

im lucky enough to have both a top end pc and a xbox360 and hdtv and my 360 hardly gets used due to the games being bland and the fact the pc is so much better for game sessions on your own fair enough i do take my 360 around my friends house a lot to play fifa but end up leaveing it there most of the time for weeks on end due to never using it at home anyways i mean yeah the games look ok on it and some are fun

think the last game i completed on it was gow and i enjoyed it a bit but by the end was getting a tad bored of doing the same thing and killing the same monsters but still a amazing game in its own right but even having this console for the past 2 years there isn't any game i have on here that i know will have lasting apeal to me
i played foza for about 3 months but got bored of that as well

consoles are good for quick plays and maybe a few friends around but i find pc games have far better multiplayer and friends base than any console i mean ive been in a few cs clans and still know these guys after 7 years and still speak to them most days if its css or tf2 or c&c3 i mean having 12 people on teamspeak or vent playing a big game of css or tf2 or some kinnda rts is so much fun that ive never had on any console snes,dreamcast,xbox,ps2,xbox360 or anything and the fact you can play these games with these friends for a few hours and not know where the times gone it doesn't matter there not in the room most of the time its nicer to have that freedom in your room and not have them right there and just on the headset!! this is what pc gameing is all about and why it will never die cos people who buy build and play these games on the pc know what there doing and why there doing it and the fact you have guys who you know sometimes better than the people you work with for 3 years!! its a community and will allways be around people said this argument the same when the first xbox came out and the ps2 and nothing happends when they came out!

put it this way if there wasn't any pc gameing consoles wouldn't be where they are now as there would be no market for nvidia or ati to dev new faster sexy cards that produce amazing gfx and since consoles have allways used the pc market to leach hardware from!!

if anything console gamers should be thanking us!!

 

[uv]

Jesus christ.

How did this thread turn into a flame war?

Read the OP question:
How can you justify a 2 grand gaming pc?

The answer: people don't spend £2k on a machine to play games on purely because they think it's better than a console. £600 would do the job just fine. People who spend £2k on a machine do because they are enthusiasts, because they *enjoy* building/tinkering with their pc, because they want to have a bigger e-penis, or because they have that kind of cash spare and want the biggest and best.

It's not because X costs £X compared to Y costing £Y.

The OP's question was valid, but there are many other reasons than cash value that decide whether one gets a console or a PC.

 

[skullman]

If M$ brought a mouse and keyboard out I would convert probably, I believe such a simple action would win over quite a few PC gamers yet they seem blind to this.

Wont ever happen. Why would MS want to divert PC gamers away from PC's? Keep the whole kb/mouse thing away from consoles I say.

put it this way if there wasn't any pc gameing consoles wouldn't be where they are now as there would be no market for nvidia or ati to dev new faster sexy cards that produce amazing gfx and since consoles have allways used the pc market to leach hardware from!!

Get a clue.

 

[BlairH]

Because I can.

 

[bfar]

That point in itself is debatable, as your "£2000" figure is totally inaccurate anyway.

Not to mention, as I already said, that people are free to spend their money how they like.

That said, "LOL @ yuorsaelf!" You won't convince me you're not trolling that easily, especially considering the nice little barb you just made in the Stronghold thread. You might be fooling others, but not me.

A number of us think the OP opened a valid thread. It's a question that needs to be discussed over and over as time goes by. If you don't like it then don't get involved in it.

Dude, you seem to have a big problem making a point without bullying other forum members.

 

[Pottsey]

Divide the amount you spent via the amount of hours you use it and get xx £ per hour. If the ratio is better then a trip to the cinema or meal out its worth it.

 

[drunkenmaster]

LOL at you sir. If you read what i said on the 1st post i DO enjoy gaming on the pc - and am not glorifying consoles over pcs as pcs have much more uses.

Im just saying that for gaming, and gaming only, i think the 360 or ps3 would be the better option due to the cheapness of it.

I thought this forum was full of grown up sensible people that would give me there views on it (which 99.9% have) but i was being naive obviously.

the reason you appear to be a troller, is because your main question makes no sense, pc's do way more, but cost more than a console, therefore consoles must be better than pc's because they are cheaper. you point out that the PC can do a lot more, so the cost shouldn't be the same. then you compare cost.

frankly, out of most of the family friends, family, uni friends, people i've worked with, any one of them can spend £80 on a gfx card and have as powerful a gaming computer as their console, where as they would have to spend £170ish for a core, or more, or maybe £300 for a elite, or more again for a ps3, to get less functionality than the £80 upgrade would provide(x1950pro).

still to find more than a few games i prefer on a console over a pc, still to find a decent controller fps/rpg on a console, and mmo's, with a controller, wouldn't be my first choice.

 

[Gerard]

Because I can.

Exactly, doesn't ned any justification, you buy what you can afford\slap on a credit card

 

[Darkwave]

A number of us think the OP opened a valid thread. It's a question that needs to be discussed over and over as time goes by. If you don't like it then don't get involved in it.

Dude, you seem to have a big problem making a point without bullying other forum members.

Some will view it as valid, some will view it as trolling, and nothing is really going to change that but I'm not bullying him whatsoever. The question is also completely pointless and definitely doesn't need discussing over and over again, especially with the frequency it comes up in this forum.

There's three types of thread I hate in this forum: -

a.) PC Gaming Is Dying threads.
b.) PC vs. Console Gaming threads.
c.) *Official* threads.

Should all be locked on sight IMO.

 

[Bengaboy]

Some will view it as valid, some will view it as trolling, and nothing is really going to change that but I'm not bullying him whatsoever. The question is also completely pointless and definitely doesn't need discussing over and over again, especially with the frequency it comes up in this forum.

There's three types of thread I hate in this forum: -

a.) PC Gaming Is Dying threads.
b.) PC vs. Console Gaming threads.
c.) *Official* threads.

Should all be locked on sight IMO.

How about when those topics come up you just ignore them?

 

[Darkwave]

How about when those topics come up you just ignore them?

Hard to ignore them coming up on an almost daily basis.

 

[DavidB]

Its understandable that people get annoyed when people are effectively discrediting there "game pc's" and saying theyve wasted money. Nobody likes to hear that, thats for sure lol

Theres pro's and cons to both games consoles and PC's
PC:-
Initial high setup price, i dont take TV screens into this equation as impresuming most people have them already, and my 22" tv screen is more than adequate for me
Upgrades not only benefit games, but the entire system
More customiseable, more personal, less mass produced
Games are cheaper (no arguing this imo) and more customiseable, maybe this will change as games consoles become more like PC's.
PC's suffer from problems such as virus's , don't see many of them on xbox.
PC's can multi task better, for example i can be playing a game that involves purely waiting whilst looking on the forum, downloading a game and listening to music...i like that functionality.
PC error's can be more troublesome, with an xbox you just send it for an RMA.

XBOX 360 :-
Initial costs are relatively low, say ~£300 for a reasonable package.(Counting costs like addtional controllers is madness as on a PC you dont have that option).
Games are more expensive.
Lower performance
Better multiplayer support (not including internet)
Worse internet experience.
Possibly even more 8 year olds shouting at you for shooting them as they can access it easier.

Those points are my opinion nehu
Don't worry about trolling comments and stuff, they get forgotten fast, and its not exactly an insult thats going to sting.

 

[Slogan]

a.) Wrong forum
b.) People can spend their money how they like.
c.) Jog on troll.

If all you wanted to do was make a thread about how good consoles are there's a whole forum for that, bye.

Don't think it's trolling at all, he's just asking why people decide to spend considerably more on a device that will out-dated in months over a console that will be the 'high end' for a few years before being out-dated.

 

[Darkwave]

Don't think it's trolling at all, he's just asking why people decide to spend considerably more on a device that will out-dated in months over a console that will be the 'high end' for a few years before being out-dated.

I don't think my computer has ever been out-dated, so your/his point falls flat on its face for a start.

My main problem with this thread, aside from it being here instead of consoles, is that its entire premise is so utterly flawed that it doesn't leave room for discussion except to correct him on how much PCs actually cost.

Not to mention that asking people to justify their purchase "because consoles are cheaper" is just arrogant.

Edit: I'm not even sure why I'm still posting here, I've made my point and all people are going to say to me now is that I'm "bullying" the guy and whatnot instead of discussing the (completely flawed) issue.

 

[stickroad]

How can i justify spending £2000 on a system?

Becuase i work dam hard for my money and would like to treat myself.

 

[n3crius]

Oh dear, I think I'll leave you to it.

Nice condescending attitude you have there.

Edit And Completely Unrelated Note: -
Interesting fact: I just did some digging and it seems I've only used the word "troll" to describe someone three times this whole year, I guess I just can't keep myself from doing it.

Fine, you've used it three times. Still seems like you flipped out for no good reason to me though.

 

[bfar]

Some will view it as valid, some will view it as trolling, and nothing is really going to change that but I'm not bullying him whatsoever. The question is also completely pointless and definitely doesn't need discussing over and over again, especially with the frequency it comes up in this forum.

If some view it as valid then it's not a troll, it's a worthwhile thread.

The question is far from pointless - it needs to be reviewed regularly, as products are constantly on the move and it all costs money.

There's three types of thread I hate in this forum: -

a.) PC Gaming Is Dying threads.
b.) PC vs. Console Gaming threads.
c.) *Official* threads.

Should all be locked on sight IMO.

That's bullying.

You're the one posting on a thread you have no interest in. Who's the troll?

 

[Darkwave]

Fine, you've used it three times. Still seems like you flipped out for no good reason to me though.

I "flipped out" rolleyes: again) because the entire premise of this thread is flawed.

That, and it's YACVPCT (yet another console vs. PC thread.)

If some view it as valid then it's not a troll, it's a worthwhile thread.

The question is far from pointless - it needs to be reviewed regularly, as products are constantly on the move and it all costs money.

Then why can't the OP at least learn to price up right? What's the point in comparing the price of PCs vs. consoles if you're going to blow one massively out of proportion?

As I also said, why does anyone need to justify it? It's their money.

That's bullying.

I don't see how wishing crap threads were locked on sight is bullying.

Edit: And as I predicted, these two posts were all about my attitude and didn't address how flawed the OP is.

 

[Bengaboy]

How can i justify spending £2000 on a system?

Becuase i work dam hard for my money and would like to treat myself.

see , thats one of the things that i wouldve thought - you have the money for it and really want it, you go my son!

I don't think my computer has ever been out-dated, so your/his point falls flat on its face for a start.

Maybe because you have this spec :

System: Akasa Eclipse 62 // Corsair HX 520W // Abit IP35 Pro // Core 2 Quad Q6600 G0 @ 3.2GHz
Noctua U12F // 2GB G.Skill HZ DDR2 // BFG Geforce 8800GTS 640MB // Creative X-Fi Xtreme Music

Which means you obviously upgraded recently - im guessing in the last 1-2 months. Its relatively new and one of the best specs so of course its not going to be out dated...

 

[n3crius]

I "flipped out" rolleyes: again) because the entire premise of this thread is flawed.

Roll your eyes all you like. The fact is you flipped out (your original post in this thread is quite clear) at a perfectly reasonable question to most in here. Even though most can be quite dismissive and don't feel the need to justify costs of a PC, they at least recognise the OP was just asking a question - where you decided to go on the offensive.

So, to you it may be flawed, in some way - which to others in here it's clearly not. Regardless that still doesn't mean you can call people and talk to them as you see fit.