TF2 or Fortress Forever?

Awesome game. My only reservations are they have destroyed well, and the maps aren't sniper-friendly enough. Apart from that it's all good. :)
 
Worthy said:
Awesome game. My only reservations are they have destroyed well, and the maps aren't sniper-friendly enough. Apart from that it's all good. :)
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A few of the map are sniper friendly but others definately not (I can't recall the names off the top of my head! :D). I love the sniper, but some of the map layouts make them useless.
 
Worthy said:
Awesome game. My only reservations are they have destroyed well, and the maps aren't sniper-friendly enough. Apart from that it's all good. :)
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I have to agree with you there ... the remake of Well is the one thing that irks me in TF2, probably because Well is one of my fav maps of all time, the FF remake is a good, fresh take on the old design.
 
Soupy said:
I have to agree with you there ... the remake of Well is the one thing that irks me in TF2, probably because Well is one of my fav maps of all time, the FF remake is a good, fresh take on the old design.
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Yeah. They shouldn't have called it well really. It's completely different.
 
Souness said:
Why don't all the TF2 haters just go back and play TFC seeing as it's the perfect game.
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I will do, i just like to mock you TF2 lovers aswell :D

I only love FF as i played TFC clan style for 6 years and im never going to not like it. Everyone in the old community is coming back and that is why i love it.

I even have the game on bad graphics settings for maximum FPS, so it pretty much is old TFC with the old school community!, loving it.
 
Having not played TF2 my opinion is a little biased.

I played TFC up until the point where [DW] disbanded (if anyone can remember) and then moved on.

FF is a very good remake of the game, maybe a little too close since for the prem clan's its a swift move over without any learning curve, which for new players is far to steep when you log into a Noobie server and see b'hop conc'ing spamming medics it's kinda confusing.

They should have changed a few things, Conc'ing maybe not taking you as far as an example.

They did however make the spy class VERY good and great to play, also the pyro class with the stacking flames is a great change also, if not a little annoying.

The bugs are quite bad, HWG are far to powerful, SG's have too little health and the accuracy i feel is pretty poor. Too few levels to play, should have added the original levels first, then the self made modded ones like sd2, monkey etc etc

But overall it brings back the feel of TFC which as a community was really good if not a little too elitist. If the leagues start up again that'll be great. And if clans like [DW], [UA] SirBruce solo'ing everyone :P (if anyone remembers them ;) ) come back, it would make the game enter a whole new level of activity.

To the new people who have never played TFC original before, give FF more a chance before you dismiss it, it requires a whole new level of skill (like said before) to play and the satisfaction of doing your first conc from 1 side of Well to the other and flying through the air is very satisfying.

To the people who came from TFC to TF2 all i have to say is if you prefer a lesser skilled slower game at your old age, then senility will take you!!!!
 
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from a original TF player from the start, Fortress Forever wins hands down, will be even better after a few patches, clans will chouse FF.
 
After playing the beta last night, it's obvious to me FF is the better game. Don't get me wrong, TF2 is a fun game to play but it's identical to FF except for:

- No grenades
- Slower gameplay
- Generally dumbed-down for the console market

If you prefer those aspects then naturally TF2 is the winner but I fail to see any serious gaming to be done on TF2. There just doesn't seem to be such an element of skill that TFC had which FF brings over very nicely. TFC was a spam-fest but an organised spam-fest at that :)
 
sniffy said:
After playing the beta last night, it's obvious to me FF is the better game. Don't get me wrong, TF2 is a fun game to play but it's identical to FF except for:

- No grenades
- Slower gameplay
- Generally dumbed-down for the console market

If you prefer those aspects then naturally TF2 is the winner but I fail to see any serious gaming to be done on TF2. There just doesn't seem to be such an element of skill that TFC had which FF brings over very nicely. TFC was a spam-fest but an organised spam-fest at that :)
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In what way is it dumbed down?

Personally, i love TF2. Didnt think i would at all after being a BF2/BF2142 man..but this is refreshing. Good fun and exciting to play.
 
It's extremely dumbed down, there's no point even trying to explain why lol

Trying to play TF2 when the rest of your team are complete newbs is near impossible, that's why its frustrating
 
ArmyofHarmony said:
It's extremely dumbed down, there's no point even trying to explain why lol

Trying to play TF2 when the rest of your team are complete newbs is near impossible, that's why its frustrating
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Great answer...

So the fact your not a solo pwnmobile and need to use some teamwork to win is a bad thing?
 
Tried&Tested said:
In what way is it dumbed down?
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Dumbed-down might be a little too strong. Just a few things they've changed which has removed elements of skill I think.

- Medic is far too overpowered. Medic + HW gay = easy frags.

- Ability to construct a sentry with one click. In the original, you needed a lot of back-up to get a sentry built in a good area. Now you just run over, click the button and peg it.

- I've seen health packs dotted around some levels, what the hell is up with that?

Things like that really mate. The pace of things hold it back mostly for me though.

Nothing to make me say "OMG THIS SUCKS", just a few niggles. The small niggles is what makes the game though :)

Understandably people will say "well it wasn't suppose to be like the original!". Fair point, doesn't mean the changes are positive though.

Personally, i love TF2. Didnt think i would at all after being a BF2/BF2142 man..but this is refreshing. Good fun and exciting to play.
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I assume you didn't play TFC? For us old players, there's very little refreshing about it. As I've said they're very similar, just seems TF2 has more of the negative aspects. No doubt it's still a great game though, I look forward to playing both of them.
 
It is a bad thing, because when your team are just messing around, you obviously are screwed.

You know, I could probably deal with most TF2's faults (and yes they are faults) if they made the pace of the game a bit better.

Basically when playing as soldier, the rockets leave really slow, and if you quick switch to shotgun to finish off a guy, there's a delay before you can shoot... are they purposely trying to **** off people with good reactions?

No swearing.

Second warning, 48hrs next time. Zefan.
 
You're right, that would require skill. It is also skilful if you can kill 100 people as a scout without taking damage, doesn't make it feasible though.
 
I only really played dustbowl and well. I don't remember the original well having health packs around, only in the spawns. I never liked Cz2, rock nor hunted so can't say :) I find it lame regardless.
 
ArmyofHarmony said:
It is a bad thing, because when your team are just messing around, you obviously are screwed.

You know, I could probably deal with most TF2's faults (and yes they are faults) if they made the pace of the game a bit better.

Basically when playing as soldier, the rockets leave really slow, and if you quick switch to shotgun to finish off a guy, there's a delay before you can shoot... are they purposely trying to **** off people with good reactions?
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Then you could say it encourages team play more, whereas TFC felt like a solo experience on pubs.
 
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