Could have sworn trespass isn't a criminal offence unless you've had a court order banning you from the property?
Unless you mean not obeying an police officer bit
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UF police taser someone for asking a question
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Could have sworn trespass isn't a criminal offence unless you've had a court order banning you from the property?
Unless you mean not obeying an police officer bit
This is america though.
Ahh my bad cant run the vid at the moment makes my pc crash
It's a conspiracy, where's my tin hat
.It's at the Florida University, no idea what laws that state has, but most places in america have tight trespassing laws.
Why did they taser him? He was on the ground and couldn't possibly hurt anyone from there (not that he had any intention to hurt anyone I don't think).
I don't know but it seems to me they simply used the taser to make him stop talking.
I don't know but it seems to me they simply used the taser to make him stop talking.
he was asked to stop talking. obviously the guy being asked the question was in parliament and of some authority so more extensive measures are taken.
how would you like it if you were having a candle lit dinner with the missus for i dunno.. an anniversary and he turns up asking ''you gunna nail her tonight, i would ect ect ect. you'd ask him to stop and what if he doesnt? i know i would tasar him if i had one or i'd just beat the **** out of him. not right. but there is a time and a place to air your views.
that was not one of them.
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Whether the guy is a muppet is utterly irrelevant. The Tazer is intended to subdue aggressive and violent people as an alternative to deadly force. He wasn't any danger, and tazering him was unnecessarily vindictive and not without risk. Tantamount to assault I reckon.
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Sorry, a public debate isn't a place to air your views? Wtf? When is exactly then?
sorry, but what were his views? if he was saying 9/11 was a good thing and all those people should have died anyway? he obviously chatting out his ass to start a fight and he got one.
''we will tasar you if you dont stop struggling''
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still struggles / resists arrest
=....take a guess.
there needs to be more of that sort of police action.
stop hanging around this off licence being a pain in the ass....no? wack 2500volts.
''we will tasar you if you dont stop struggling''
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still struggles / resists arrest
=....take a guess.
there needs to be more of that sort of police action.
stop hanging around this off licence being a pain in the ass....no? wack 2500volts.
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Yes, more unnecessary police brutality is exactly what we need.
Are you an idiot? Its a video filmed at a public discussion, they've even set up a microphone with speakers for people to ask questions and air their views.
From whats shown in the video that is completely over the top, and as far as i was aware when legally arresting someone you had to inform them of the reason and read them their rights.
He was asking a question which was presumably okay as Kelly (the guy on stage) was heard saying a couple of times, "its okay, i'll answer his question" and the female officer who had been talking with other officers in the background while the guy was speaking told her colleague to arrest him. For what reason he was arrested i'm unsure of, the conspiracy style content of what he was saying i guess. Either way, the female officer went against kelly's instructions and proceeded to detain him immediately with the intent of removing him from the room which appears to be completely of her own decision.
They proceeded to grab him and muttered something quickly at him which looks to be "your under arrest" he refused arrest and said "i'm not going" and shook them off him before he was read any rights and upon shaking them off he just stood there with his arms in the air. Maybe he should have waited to hear why he was being arrested before shaking them off but then they didn't look like they were going to do it peacefully. He gets a taser pointed at him at which point he's just standing there and turns to walk out the room and even begins to do so as the officers then proceed to grab him and the large black officer plows him out the room quite effectively while he's shouting "where are you taking me?" and "what did i do?" Which implies he wasn't told why he's been arrested still. The fact he's not doing anything other than standing there and walking out briefly as one of the officers is holding his wrists seems to imply he simply didn't like them fully restraining him.
He then makes a break for the stage presumably to get into the limelight again. Maybe he was worried they'd treat him unfairly and wanted the room of witnesses and camcorders (which he succeeeded in doing) to see what happened. Maybe he wanted to run at Kelly and strangle him or something... who knows.
The only thing clearly visible is that the only things the woman officer would tell him were to "quieten down" and "do it now". Good reasons for arresting someone and equal to readin him his rights? I don't think so.
The other thing thats clearly shown in the video is the fact he's told to lie on his stomach and only at the mention of the taser does he turn around to speak to the person threatening him, going against his ultimatum. With the way he reacted in front of the taser earlier it would seem he was quite worried by them. What is also clearly shown is that at the exact moment he's tasered he's sat still with one hand being held and the other on a chair and he's still in this position up until the point he gets tasered.
I'd say it was handled very inapropriately by the police and although they seemed to be completely unsure of what to do and looked to be panicking (the female "lead" officer kept looking around her almost worriedly while he was being pinned down and very sheepishly put her hand on his shoulder to "contribute" to restraining him) he didn't help the situation with going against everything they told him to do.
Its not a clear case of him being a **** and deserving it, they acted very unprofessionally and didn't do it "by the book".
I would hate to live in America, the police are a bunch of idiots and thugs. Even those American "pro-police" programs just show how thuggish and thick their police are. They totally overreacted, like usual.
Cor... videos like this make me angry (I watched the full-length one).
Cor... videos like this make me angry (I watched the full-length one).
Five officers did well to retain him with the use of a taser?
What world do you live on? I could've retained him on my own with a taser, and as far as I can see all it would have taken to sort the situation out is the removal of him. He puts his hands up as if to say 'OK I'll go if you let go of me' and they keep hold of him, and more and more of them join in.
He wasn't abusive, physically or verbally. He did well to only swear once and even then it was through frustration because they wouldn't tell him what he'd done wrong.
I still don't know what he did wrong. There was no reason to arrest him, the officers escalated the situation unnecessarily in the first place and they used unreasonable force too.
They deserve to lose their jobs.
Sorry but that is something I would expect to happen in somewhere like Iran. Not the USA!
A politician cannot ask someone to stop speaking just because his words are embarrasing you or whatever else. And you especially cannot have a line a police officers at the ready to 'take out' anybody that clearly isn't there to be apart of your political "rally".
For a college campus where open debate is often encouraged it seems wierd that this event even occured. The politician could have simply told him he wasn't going to answer any of his non-favourable questions.
why not? it's private property and in america you can ask them to leave, then it's trespassing. Not that I agree, but that's not the point.
If he was asked to leave, he's trespassing, disobeying a police officer, pushing police officer at least once in the face, the police let him go once as it looks like he's going to obey and leave, he runs back to the stage. Even when he's on the floor he continues to struggle. He's warned several times if he doesn't stop he'll be tazered.
Private property that I'm sure the guy has paid his way to be on. A college student?
If I was paying thousands to be at college/uni then I sure as hell wouldn't want some police officers to come across all heavy on me and escort me out of a open political debate. Clearly his little gag of "skull and bones society" didn't go down well with one of the police officers (a women?) and of course when one went in they all had to follow. That's what it looks like on the video to me. Yes his gag was intended to be inflammatory but it has nothing to do with the police officers. The politician (Kerry was it?) could have laughed it off with ease.
You pay to go in a night club, if you don't follow the rules you get removed. The same with Q&A sessions, there's strict rules. If you don't follow them you are removed. The police didn't diffuse the situation, but they also didn't do anything inheritantly wrong.
He struggled, he disobeyed, he looked like he was going to obey, they let him go, he disobeyed, he got arrested, he struggled, he got warned, he got tazered.
Acid, no it's like going to a night club, chatting up a girl and getting thrown out for chatting up the girl.
What "rules" did the student break? Asking a question? He wasen't a threat to anybody else, and no matter what you can't be forced from a debate just because of the question. What would the reaction be if a member of the press asked a question to GWB and they were forced out in exactly the same manner?
I can't believe some people are siding with the police on this one...
To those that find this funny, I question there intelligence.
What "rules" did the student break? Asking a question? He wasen't a threat to anybody else, and no matter what you can't be forced from a debate just because of the question. What would the reaction be if a member of the press asked a question to GWB and they were forced out in exactly the same manner?
I can't believe some people are siding with the police on this one...
To those that find this funny, I question there intelligence.