XP Service Pack 3 On The Way
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What can Vista do that XP can't? As it is Vista still has bugs, and is still generally slower. Unless you class system halting deleting a short cut "fast" or waiting 30 seconds prior to a large directory copy as "normal" even Windows 3.11 and Windows 95 didn't do that.
I use Vista on my home PC, but to call XP SP3 "a waste of time" is ludicrous. In business the vast majority of workstations run WinXP (or earlier for that matter).
you have to remember these "bugs" don't affect everyone. you think it would have been released if it did?
A lot of business companies have been using XP for years without any major problems so does it need another service pack ,that was my point,why keep trying to update an old dog.
As to the other guy about what Vista can do that XP can't ,you know what features/ improvements it has,better security,improved memory handling,DX10 not to meantion DX10.1 down the road to name a few.
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I see what you are getting at, but there's been a lot of updates released since SP2 so giving an easy way of rolling out an up-to-date version of XP would be beneficial I'm sure (in the long term obviously - a lot of companies are rightfully cautious about slapping a new SP on straight away).
It will be a long time before Vista is seen in any large companies - they all have extended support from Microsoft so there's no hurry. I know the stage one testing has been recalled 3 times already where I work because of problems, so a Vista rollout is still a long way off.
Hell, it will probably be the best part of a year before we see SP3 approved.
Hell, it will probably be the best part of a year before we see SP3 approved.
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Having SP3 for XP will be a good thing I think. Anyone who installs XP regularly will be glad to have just SP2 and SP3 to install. Unless MS are making SP3 to SP2 the same as SP2 was to SP1? Where the latest SP is the only one you need?
It would be madness to stop support for a product thats still on sale, XP will be going strong for some time i think, mybe he needed the sales
It would be nice if the Winfs extensions are included with SP3, it may hurt sales of vista... but fingers crossed.
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Dude, even on a VMWare machine, reading from an ISO file on a separate hard drive, you can't install XP in 7 minutes. The hardware detection alone takes about 4 minutes.
Mini-setup from a syspreped image takes about 10 minutes...
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There was exactly 80 when I did mine last night, plus 10 optional
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Just use this instead then and intergrate them all directly to your Windows XP CD. Saves you having to install any after doing a fresh install.
http://www.ryanvm.net/msfn/updatepack.html
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Thats a brilliant post. I already use it. Unfortunately RyanVM has been busy of late but someone on the forum on that site has worked on a update to that. So everything thats been out since the latest RyanVM patch has been included in this one.
There's one minor downside to Service packs,unfortunately some people get problems installing them,ie I recommended to a friend that she install SP2 on XP(she's a web designer so not a noob),guess what it messed up her system she had to do a reformat and a reinstall,this will happen again and again,I remember seeing the horror threads with SP1 and SP2 ie "Help SP2 messed up my PC".
Yes it's nice if you get the SP included in the OS or can slipstream it but a lot of people don't have that luxury,there will always be some people(no fault of their own) where SP installs goes wrong on their PCs.
Yes it's nice if you get the SP included in the OS or can slipstream it but a lot of people don't have that luxury,there will always be some people(no fault of their own) where SP installs goes wrong on their PCs.
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Acronis image stored on a separate Hard Drive = XP install in around 2 minutes 45 seconds
Shame those benchies didn't look at Colin McRae DiRT or Test Drive Unlimited or NFS Carbon or RCT3 as I think they'd have shown something a little different. Not sure how many other games affected, these are ones that I have severe issues with under Vista rendering them virtually unplayable even at fairly low settings.