Smoking in your car could now get you points and fine!!!

[Larnica]

you dont smoke and i do so how am i getting better treatment?
And how are you suffering? Explain that one to me?

Me and you are identical in driving - only difference is i smoke and you dont!
That doesnt mean i get better treatment!

Well, Hello

Firstly, your getting the privilege to smoke in your car whats just as dangerous or more dangerousthan eating.

Okay, "suffering" may be an over-statement but I love Apple Pie but I cant eat any on the move, you love smoking maybe, you can do that. How is that fair?

I dont understand why you cant see its unfair that your allowed to hold a peice of paper thats on fire in your hand but im not allowed to nibble my lovely golden just cooked warmish with sugar on top and cinnamon apple pie.....

 

[BigglesPiP]

Food and drink is a fine?

Do lockets sweets count? I emptied a pack onto my dashboard in preparation for a trip up the M6 with a cold the other day, so I could eat them without messing around trying to get them out the pack. Was good on the motorway, but turned out to be a mistake when I got to the B roads near home.

 

[ci_newman]

So what about the distraction that when lit up, you're now holding a cigarette in one hand and are therefore no longer in full control of the vehicle?

It's a good move tbh- if a woman can get prosecuted for eating an apple whilst driving, so should you be liable for smoking or attempting to change a CD whilst driving.

 

[Glaucus]

Surely the same can be said for mobiles etc? I can drive perfectly fine on my mobile. Sure some people can't, similary how some people can't light a cig without weaving about. So what do they do?

Yep, I don't think anything in the car should be banned. Either you can drive safe or you can't. But that requires cops on the road, not gatso' .

 

[photoshop]

Well, Hello

Firstly, your getting the privilege to smoke in your car whats just as dangerous or more dangerousthan eating.

its not a privilage. How is it a privilage? i smoke therefore i smoke in my car just as i smoke in my house.
How is it as dangerous as eating? I can still stear with both my hands, i dont take my eyes off the road when i take a puff.
I'd liek to see some accident statistics before i class it anywhere as near as "dangerous". Thats just blown out of proportion.

Okay, "suffering" may be an over-statement but I love Apple Pie but I cant eat any on the move, you love smoking maybe, you can do that. How is that fair?

I love apple pie too but im not dense enough to eat it on the move. Hell i would love to eat my breakfast in my car if i could but you dont see me doing it.
I smoke and you dont so its totally irrelevant in interms of fairness.

And your comparing food to a smoke stick which are two are different things.


This country is out of control!!!

Whats next?
Cars which are limited to 70mph so no one breaks the speed limits?
Money taken direct from your accounts when your road tax is due?
Ipods banned from cars?

 

[Abraham]

while it gives another loophole for you to be pulled over if they want to, this will make no difference. it isnt like the mobile law, it is an addition to the existing guidelines which as mentioned cover eating and drinking. Just because you are eating or drinking you do not get pulled over, just because they can doesnt mean they will. The same will apply with smoking, if you're weaving over the road/drawing attention to yourself in a negative way, then you will get pulled over and it gives them another tool to help prosecute bad drivers.

 

[Abraham]

And your comparing food to a smoke stick and too are different things.

they're not wildly different in the affect they'd have on your driving, ignoring the non practical foods, take a chocolate bar/sausage roll, something easily one hand held. opening it will distract you equivalent to lighting your cigarette.
and there continues to be very little difference with them with the notable exception that the cigarette is very hot at one end.

 

[Vanilla]

A lot of comments about how hard it is to smoke seem to come from non smokers who dramatise the distraction it may have.

I don't smoke and havn't for years but In my smoking days smoking at the wheel was second nature. It took no concentration to hold, light up or put out because it was a common thing.

I'd have more trouble with something like eating at the wheel because it was not common (and I never ever did it because of this!).

 

[furnace]

From what I can gather though, this only applies if you are driving dangerously..? They have to have reason to think you were driving without due care and attention?

So like, if you swerve and they see you're taking a puff, that's when they can do you. Or if you crash and you were smoking. But not if you are just driving normally whilst doing it..?

 

[Vanilla]

From what I can gather though, this only applies if you are driving dangerously..? They have to have reason to think you were driving without due care and attention?

So like, if you swerve and they see you're taking a puff, that's when they can do you. Or if you crash and you were smoking. But not if you are just driving normally whilst doing it..?

Never works like this though. I remember seeing the newspaper articles at least once a month about someone being stopped at the lights, taking a swig of water and being done for it.

It is just going to give bored coppers a reason to go after the average person. If someone is swerving over the road let the police stop them anyway, I don't think laws need to be created just so police have a valid reason to 'do' someone.

 

[Sarduk]

I am all for stopping people taking drugs while driving

But seriously, lighting up in the car will either distract you or burn you (which will then lead to distraction) - there is no "safe" way to do it, so I agree and hope it gets enforced. Not to mention to idiots who throw the butts out of the window.

 

[Abraham]

Never works like this though. I remember seeing the newspaper articles at least once a month about someone being stopped at the lights, taking a swig of water and being done for it.

and how many people do you actually know who've been done for it?
the police (on the whole) aren't stupid
unless you catch a **** on a bad day they are never going to do you for having a drink/eating/smoking especially while stopped at traffic lights.
dont go on what you read in the papers, go on what you actually know
if anyone i even vaguely know had been done for drinking water at the wheel the mockery would have trickled through to me.

 

[photoshop]

This is how it starts. Give it a few years and it will be LAW !

Freedom? What freedom?

 

[furnace]

I think it will push people who would otherwise be law-abiding citizens onto the wrong side of the law, and that will hardly create respect for the law or police - something which they have already lost enough of.

Yeah, it's all in the name of safety, but it's still pathetic and just adds to this whole 'nanny state' idea. Next they will be fining you for itching the back of your knee or rubbing your eye - but it's okay, it's in the name of safety.

I think these laws could be okay, but certainly not if they are allowed to "just do you" even though you have caused no hazard. They should have to have seen you do something dangerous like swerve, drive too slow/fast, pull a dodgy manoeuvre, etc.

It feels like I'm always breaking the law for one reason or another nowadays.

I'll get my windows tinted in my first proper car, I think

 

[Larnica]

This is how it starts. Give it a few years and it will be LAW !

Freedom? What freedom?

Why are you upset that your not allowed to smoke? From what I read your not dense enough to eat apple pie on the move, but you are to smoke?

I'll be happy aslong as you understand that they cant ban eating and drinking without smoking aswell, its just as big of a distraction. Although I do agree with you on some levels. I.e where does it stop? freedom? etc.

 

[Glaucus]

Why are you upset that your not allowed to smoke? From what I read your not dense enough to eat apple pie on the move, but you are to smoke?

apple pie crumbles and falls apart .
what is the risk of smoking whilst driving? what % of crashes has it cause? Next to none. Therefore it doesn't need it's own law. every distraction should simply come under driving without due care and attention. So yes it is stupid and yes it is yet another freedom and nanny state law.

Thats the problem, a lot of people are agreeing with this, simply as there pst time eating/drinking has been included for a while. What people should be doing is disagreeing for both smoking, stereo, eating, drinkingetc etc etc

 

[Vanilla]

and how many people do you actually know who've been done for it?
the police (on the whole) aren't stupid
unless you catch a **** on a bad day they are never going to do you for having a drink/eating/smoking especially while stopped at traffic lights.
dont go on what you read in the papers, go on what you actually know
if anyone i even vaguely know had been done for drinking water at the wheel the mockery would have trickled through to me.

I don't know anyone who has been done for dangerous driving, driving without due care, etc. So what does it matter?

Fact is I'd rather not rely on if a policeman is having a bad day. If they can do you for it they will.

 

[photoshop]

Why are you upset that your not allowed to smoke? From what I read your not dense enough to eat apple pie on the move, but you are to smoke?

I'll be happy aslong as you understand that they cant ban eating and drinking without smoking aswell, its just as big of a distraction. Although I do agree with you on some levels. I.e where does it stop?

smoking isnt a distraction. Its no more of a distraction than looking in your wing mirrors or rear view mirror is it......

If you want to eat then eat at home or where your meant to eat. Dont eat in a car!

 

[Larnica]

smoking isnt a distraction. Its no more of a distraction than looking in your wing mirrors or rear view mirror is it......

If you want to eat then eat at home or where your meant to eat. Dont eat in a car!

"Smoke isnt a distraction". Okay when its in your mouth its not but if it falls into your lap it might be or when you take it out / put it in / light it. Also, like the lad above me has written, I need food and water to survive yet im not allowed to eat/drink in my car, you where allowed to smoke, but that isnt life or death. Sure, that make not be very realistic but its an example.

 

[Duke]

When I drive I do just that. I don't take half the kitchen in the car with me. I think that if you are caught driving dangerously or without due care and attention, whilst eating/smoking, that it should be more of a punishment.