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R600/2900 End Of Line, October

Cyber-Mav said:
so you think because you own the card your in a better position to know more about it? heck, ati made the card and they don;t even have a clue what they have unleased on the public. the only thing you have proved right here is that your not a very smart person since you own a 2900. :p
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Dear lord, do people actually listen to and value your opinion on here? Surely not, nobody could be that stupid could they?
 
Cyber-Mav said:
price/performance is not all, to have the overall winner they need to also have a cooler running, card which has less noise and more in the features department. otherwise its not going to be seen as a viable alternative. and lets not forget driver support.
going by todays date the 2900 dx10 performance is crap to say the least which is another added reason why not to buy the card.
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But that completely misses the point, it's not about an overall "winner".

ATI did a sterling job of turning round what was a stinker of a product on release and making it compete with the equivalently priced Nvidia product and with their forthcoming die shrink will likely reduce cooling requirements to a similar level of Nvidia's cards.

Jokester
 
Rackerz said:
To be honest I'm not suprised ATI have gone this way, I got my 2900XT to punch me through till March/April so I can see what Nvidia/ATI have going this time round. It'll be interesting to see if ATI actually have anything than can compete with Nvidias high end cards this time round.
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how long can they keep playing catch up for? look at cpu;s cyrix used to play catchup all the time now they are out of it.
amd used to play catchup but eventually they did the overtake and it made them last a lot longer.

if ati's next card dones't topple nvidias high end solution then they will just keep falling back.

hopefully ati doesn;t rely on the enthusiast to bring in the main cash flow, and rely on oem for it.
 
Jokester said:
But that completely misses the point, it's not about an overall "winner".

ATI did a sterling job of turning round what was a stinker of a product on release and making it compete with the equivalently priced Nvidia product and with their forthcoming die shrink will likely reduce cooling requirements to a similar level of Nvidia's cards.

Jokester
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yes thats true, but the real question is, will the 2900 die shrink card be going upagainst the gts again, or will it be going upagainst nvidias followup?
 
Cuchulain said:
Dear lord, do people actually listen to and value your opinion on here? Surely not, nobody could be that stupid could they?
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is that the best you can come up with? like a drowning rat your still thrashing in the water trying to stay afloat. :D:p
for someone who reads no reviews, and makes up judgements on the spot without solid reasoning i doubt your word has much if any strength to it at all.
 
Cyber-Mav said:
yes thats true, but the real question is, will the 2900 die shrink card be going upagainst the gts again, or will it be going upagainst nvidias followup?
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ATI are already lining up the replacement for the 2900 die shrink with the 2950 so nobody knows what the future brings. We know that R600 was badly delayed because of multiple respins at the foundry. There's nothing to suggest that AMDs next gen core has been delayed in the same manner so in all likelyhood the 3800 series could be upon us sometime next year and at the same time the 9800 might have difficulties and be delayed in the same manner that R600 was.

Jokester
 
willhub said:
Well just shows ATi are spawning some lemmons off of the production line, coz my 2900XT is a total lemmon.
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Configured by a lemon.:p

Jokester said:
But that completely misses the point, it's not about an overall "winner".

ATI did a sterling job of turning round what was a stinker of a product on release and making it compete with the equivalently priced Nvidia product and with their forthcoming die shrink will likely reduce cooling requirements to a similar level of Nvidia's cards.

Jokester
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Now this guy talks sence, spot on.
 
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Cuchulain said:
Have you got a 3DM link for your GTS?
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My 2900xt gets like 12389, my GTS 640 at 650/2.2 got 11468, but I dont think 3dmark means anything since in games the GTS is faster for me.

RavenUK said:
Configured by a lemon.:p
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I configure my machine fine, stop bloody defending the 2900xt and avin a go at me because I think the 8800GTS IS better than a 2900xt.
 
Jokester said:
ATI are already lining up the replacement for the 2900 die shrink with the 2950 so nobody knows what the future brings. We know that R600 was badly delayed because of multiple respins at the foundry. There's nothing to suggest that AMDs next gen core has been delayed in the same manner so in all likelyhood the 3800 series could be upon us sometime next year and at the same time the 9800 might have difficulties and be delayed.

Jokester
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again true, hard to say what the future holds, but all we have is a track record to go by, the 19 series was delayed, the true successor to the x1900xt/x1950xtx was the x1950pro in regard that it was a die shrink and brough less heat and also less power consumption to the table which was much needed for ati.
the new successor seems to be the same as in the die shrink but 1 thing the x1950pro did not become was a faster card than the x1900xt series. the new offering from ati is looking to become verymuch the same, although as you say it may not have to compete with the high end cards, like the x1950pro does which i rekon may be one of the high sellers due to it being probably the best performance card for the price segment its aimed at .

if the new successor to the 2900 in its die shrinked glory can become a modern day x1950pro then it may hold the mid range sector for ati.

but i rekon they still need something to give the 8800ultra a run for its money.
 
Does it really matter, the general consensus all over the WWW (notice general not ultimate) is the 2900 ATI cards are the same as the FX5000's in that they did not work out as meant to.

I for one would rather read input from peeps who have indeed owned both cards (2900's/8800's) as 3DMark(s) etc mean little in real life use.
 
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