Japanese Grand Prix 2007 Fernando Alonso Crash?

[TW]Fox;10194822 said:
First proper British hero in ages and you are not interested?

I don't care where he's from. I've never been one to 'support' someone purely because they were born within the same set of lines on a map as I was.

I have no real issue with Hamilton himself, he seems a nice enough guy and there's no denying he has serious talent. The media and the fairweather fans have jaded me to the point where I find it hard to root for him.
 
When following behind the safety car it's normal for the drivers to alternately accelerate and brake hard in order to get temperature into the brakes and tyres. This gives rise to some very high speed differentials between the cars which is pretty dangerous at the best of times. In near zero visibility it's madness.

Theres always a little bit of cat and mouse on the restarts to try and get advantage but I'm with you, he was going too far with it.

This is of course from the comfort of my armchair and backed up by my grand total of 0 hours at the seat of a race car :p
 
You can hardly blame them.

He has 3 things which mark him out from everyone else:

a) He is 20
b) He is brand new
c) He is English

Any of these three would make people interested. All 3 together would make them VERY interested. The fact he's winning the championship in his first year and its impossible to people not to go mad over him.

I bet you whinged when Schumacher won everything as well!
 
I'm sorry but I have to disagree. His success this season has been stunning by anyones standards let alone given his age and experience.
 
[TW]Fox;10194869 said:
You can hardly blame them.

He has 3 things which mark him out from everyone else:

a) He is 20
b) He is brand new
c) He is English

Don't forget, "he's black". Which his father seemed intent on pointing out in a recent tv documentry :rolleyes: Really, I hadn't noticed :rolleyes:

I like Hamilton but if I never saw his old man on telly again I wouldn't be too disappointed :o
 
to much too soon im afraid. he isnt the next coming by any means.

How so when hes winning the championship in his first year? also check out his achievements in his other driving career, Hamilton, Kovalainen and Kubica i can see being amazing soon, also id watch out for vittel.
 
[TW]Fox;10194902 said:
I'm sorry but I have to disagree. His success this season has been stunning by anyones standards let alone given his age and experience.

Let alone getting possibly the "best car", let alone having few reliability issues, i dont recall him actually having many dogfights with anyone but his own team mate if im honest with you.

seems like a situation of;

Best Car+ lack of opposition = SENSATIONALISM.

wheras Schumacher first drive qualified 7th in an unfancied Jordan, although i believe he did burn his clutch on th grid!

Is hamilton actually better/faster than Button, or because of his appearance does he just have this "Cool" trendy resh brit thing going for him?
 
He is in one of the best bits of kit on the grid and he has been pretty lucky in terms of reliability but as Brundle said in the commentry. If he wins the championship he deserves it for the Japanese GP alone. He was solid even in shocking conditions. It would have been an impressive drive for anyone, let alone a rookie to the formula.

The media is always going to go big over the any brit driver doing well, thats nothing to hold against the driver though.
 
So your not liking him because he got a lucky break and got in a decent car? you would rather a good driver was put in a back of the grid car like poor button hes a good driver aswell but unfortunate in his team,
 
[TW]Fox;10194902 said:
I'm sorry but I have to disagree. His success this season has been stunning by anyones standards let alone given his age and experience.

It'll be the first time any rookie ever has won the F1 championship if he manages it.

That in itself is enough :)
 
erm.. 1950?

Farina was winning Grands Prix 10 years before 1950. He won a race or two in 1948 as well I think, it's just that the 1950 season was the first year of an official championship. It's not as if all of a sudden, the hand of God picked out roughly 20 guys who'd never driven before, stuck them in cars and said - "go race!"

With regards to Hamilton - he's ace. I think he was possibly the only driver in the entire field not to make a mistake on Sunday in the rain. His car control is sensational - look at his overtake on Raikkonen at Monza. He's never pressured into a mistake. He drives like a veteran driver, and yet he's only 22, and this is his first year. Sure, he's in the best car - but so is last years world champion, and he's beating him!

He also has that supreme ability to just put a perfect lap together - the mark of a great. He's a few tenths off the pace, asks his engineer where he's slow. Engineer replies something like - 2 tenths in the middle sector, and a tenth in the last sector. And bingo - Hamilton can go out and find the time in those sectors. Senna could do that. I can't think of a lot of other people who've ever been able to.
 
Hey,

I missed sundays race, and watched it last night on ITV 4 @ 6PM.
but when fernando crashed, they have cut the first part. you only see him spin after he hits the wall.

i tried looking on youtube, but have yet to find any... FULL video's of it.

i want to see it from the where "he looses it"

i personally think its a cover-up, if they have not shown it in full.
he was making mistakes, loosing time.

i think he just walled it, because he knew he wasnt going to get anywhere.
aswell. as he wont be with mclaren next year too.

so has anyone got a link for the full version?
cheers :)

why would you think its a cover up lol
cameras don't always catch all the action you know
you have an over active imagination, he got court out by the rain and hit the wall, its just that simple
 
Nice to see some sensible people praising Hamilton, he is lucky because he is gifted and works hard enough to make use of it.

If he does close out the championship it will be the most sensational f1 achievement bar none

Why dont people just sit back and enjoy possible f1 history in the making

Schumachers career will always be tainted by his attitude to team management and fair play, anyone who has seen an on board replay of the moment he won his first championship can see that.
 
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