Royal Mail Strike Action

growse said:
I don't get it. I work in a skilled and reasonably paid job. If I didn't turn up to work, I'd be sacked.

Why do other industries have workers who think that not turning up to work is an acceptible thing to do, and why is it accepted?

This isn't a troll, it's a serious question. My employer is doing me a service by employing me and helping pay for my food and bills. I provide a service in return. If my employer has no more use for me, I can find work elsewhere. Why isn't this true here, and how come I'm the one who is negatively affected by not having any mail delivered?
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One assumes that this is the difference (other then the obvious) between skilled work and unskilled work.

If I don't like my working conditions, I ask my boss to improve them. If they won't get improved, I look elsewhere for another job. I don't throw my toys out of my pram, cause massive disruption to the rest of the country, hold ordinary people to ransom in an attempt to persuade my employer that my demands must be met.
 
platypus said:
Which does nothing to prove it's not an unskilled job. And, as an unskilled job, the pay is good.

How on earth does it take 2 months to learn how to sort mail? Granted, it's physically demanding, that does not make it skilled.
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Hmm where’s the mention it’s a 'Skilled Job' I was simply stating what we do day in day out, have you ever seen a mail sorting office? Take a look at a mail fitting and you will answer one of your own questions.

Jock Dodds said:
I'm not a Postman, I have a good job, but, for the record I have been both a postman and a shelf stacker in my life and I know which is harder.

If you think working more than 40 hours a week or not getting your wages on time is a 'problem' you've got a wake up call in the pipeline sonny. You've been a whole 2 years in the job? Well pardon me for questioning your credentials, you deserve a bravery medal, the kind they give to spazs for dragging themselves from hoplessness all the way up to mediocrity.
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Very well put :)
 
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fothsn said:
Hmm where’s the mention it’s a 'Skilled Job' I was simply stating what we do day in day out, have you ever seen a mail sorting office? Take a look at a mail fitting and you will answer one of your own questions.
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Of course I haven't seen one, which is why I'm asking you.
 
fothsn said:
Is about spot on, for the work involved its not enough IMO, believe me it’s much harder than you guys think, don’t stare at your monitors for too long ;) it’s not your average office job!

Basic pay minus tax & ni for £25Hrs is £160P/W
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Are you a postie?

Why would my local guy be on £10k more than most? Manager? Driver? *shrugs shoulders*.
 
Jock Dodds said:
I'm not a Postman, I have a good job, but, for the record I have been both a postman and a shelf stacker in my life and I know which is harder.

If you think working more than 40 hours a week or not getting your wages on time is a 'problem' you've got a wake up call in the pipeline sonny. You've been a whole 2 years in the job? Well pardon me for questioning your credentials, you deserve a bravery medal, the kind they give to spazs for dragging themselves from hoplessness all the way up to mediocrity.
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i dont understand, you seem to be attacking an 18 year old over their job, please get a life, two years in the same job at my age is nothing to be sniffed at, especially one as crudy as the one i do, and i've told you, i am not a shelf stacker, and i like the way you avoided the fact that my knee will be screwed for life ;).

time to come to reality mate, our jobs are no different in skill level, some of my training takes weeks as well, so get over yourself, being in a job for the entire 2 yours you've been able to do full time work does give you some impression of how crap it is, i like to think of myself as standing at the bottom and looking up, and right now the job of a postman is far more appealing than mine
 
Jock Dodds said:
I'm not a Postman, I have a good job, but, for the record I have been both a postman and a shelf stacker in my life and I know which is harder.

If you think working more than 40 hours a week or not getting your wages on time is a 'problem' you've got a wake up call in the pipeline sonny. You've been a whole 2 years in the job? Well pardon me for questioning your credentials, you deserve a bravery medal, the kind they give to spazs for dragging themselves from hoplessness all the way up to mediocrity.
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If you're employer makes you work harder than you want and doesn't pay you on time, and you're *still* in that job, then you fall into my definition of 'stupid'.

But that's just my 2p. I really really enjoy my job and what I do. So meh.
 
platypus said:
Of course I haven't seen one, which is why I'm asking you.
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It’s worth taking a look at one if you can preferably one that fully prepped up with mail & packets, should change your perception of a postie, I could take a picture tomorrow... ooops its a strike :p I can’t find one on Google aswell :(
 
Just think if they really **** up the postal service on day it may be as bad as City Link!

That is just too horrible a thought! I'm going to blockbuster to rent a nice happy movie, something like bambi will do. ;)
 
bringerofdecay said:
i dont understand, you seem to be attacking an 18 year old over their job, please get a life, two years in the same job at my age is nothing to be sniffed at, especially one as crudy as the one i do, and i've told you, i am not a shelf stacker, and i like the way you avoided the fact that my knee will be screwed for life ;).

time to come to reality mate, our jobs are no different in skill level, some of my training takes weeks as well, so get over yourself, being in a job for the entire 2 yours you've been able to do full time work does give you some impression of how crap it is, i like to think of myself as standing at the bottom and looking up, and right now the job of a postman is far more appealing than mine
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our jobs are a world apart in skill level my little chum. 2 years at a supermarket is plenty to be sniffed at, you're only 18 ffs, dont fall into the trap of thinking you've achieved something, get an education.

If the job of a postman is appealing to you, go and do it, broaden your horizons, see the world, or at least that estate on the other side of town with the wooden windows and burnt out Escorts
 
growse said:
If you're employer makes you work harder than you want and doesn't pay you on time, and you're *still* in that job, then you fall into my definition of 'stupid'.

But that's just my 2p. I really really enjoy my job and what I do. So meh.
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you've lost me, where did I say I'm overworked and underpaid?
 
Jock Dodds said:
our jobs are a world apart in skill level my little chum.
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no they really arent, you're just more big headed than i am, making you think your job is more skillful

Jock Dodds said:
2 years at a supermarket is plenty to be sniffed at, you're only 18 ffs, dont fall into the trap of thinking you've achieved something, get an education.
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it's not really that little a thing considering it's been 100% of my available working life so far, and i never said i had achieved anything, i'm just saying two years in a **** poor job like mine gives you a little perspective (how long have you been a posty for? 6 months?)


Jock Dodds said:
If the job of a postman is appealing to you, go and do it
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i'd get fired to quickly. why you ask? because i couldn't put up with little bigotted **** heads like you.

Jock Dodds said:
broaden your horizons, see the world, or at least that estate on the other side of town with the wooden windows and burnt out Escorts
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so because of the job i have you seem to think i am a no good council estate school drop out...wow...you are shallow and conceited
 
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