Gigabyte and Abit P35 boards questions

Devious · 6 Oct 2007 at 12:40

Hi,

My last 4 C2D boards have all been Asus and wanted up upgrade my Vanilla P5K today as it doesn't seem up to the job of overclocking my new Q6600. Unfortunately my local shop is all out of the higher end P5K boards so I'm thinking about trying an Abit or Gigabyte.

A couple of questions..

1. Do Abit or Gigabyte have a similar option to Asus's Voltage damper ?

2. Do they have a similar thing to the EZ flash 2 for updating the bios, where i can flash from my USB stick ? I dont have/want a floppy drive and done want to flash from windows.

Thanks

Cob · 6 Oct 2007 at 12:43

The Gigabytes have Q-Flash for updating from within the BIOS. I think the Abit's need to use a bootable floppy/CD/USB stick set to floppy.

And I don't think either have the voltage dampener option (the Gigabytes don't anyway).

WJA96 · 6 Oct 2007 at 14:15

They don't need the voltage damper as they are not stricken with horrible vDroop.

Devious · 6 Oct 2007 at 14:28

WJA96 said:
They don't need the voltage damper as they are not stricken with horrible vDroop.

They have no droop at all ?

WJA96 · 6 Oct 2007 at 14:31

Devious said:
They have no droop at all ?

Not like ASUS boards do.

vocch · 6 Oct 2007 at 17:24

WJA96 said:
They don't need the voltage damper as they are not stricken with horrible vDroop.

Abit i have tried and vdroop as much as 0.1v....set 1.53v in bios under prime load 1.42v....same as Asus cheaper boards....P5k-E as voltage damper which is supposed to work....Gigabyte well my p965 is pretty good with droop...but is it true WJA96 that the Gigabyte p35 are not as bad...why would peeps be asking for a vdroop mod?....as from what i've seen most makes of boards have it...it's only this v damper thing swaying me to the Asus...if some gigabyte p35 using quads could confirm this well i would obviously go Gigabyte as my previous board is great.

Cob · 6 Oct 2007 at 17:30

My P35-DS3P droops about 0.05v under full load from what I have it set to in BIOS (1.525v vs 1.47v). It's only about 0.03v at idle. That's pretty decent for an Intel board.

WJA96 · 6 Oct 2007 at 17:32

I have the P5K-E, The IP35-Pro and the Rev1.0 P35-DS4 and they all clock more or less exactly the same with the same CPU. The P5K-E has the worst drivers and BIOS support and the IP35-Pro has the best BIOS options for overclockers. The P35-DS4 runs the coolest and is my personal favourite.

vocch · 6 Oct 2007 at 17:43

WJA96 said:
I have the P5K-E, The IP35-Pro and the Rev1.0 P35-DS4 and they all clock more or less exactly the same with the same CPU. The P5K-E has the worst drivers and BIOS support and the IP35-Pro has the best BIOS options for overclockers. The P35-DS4 runs the coolest and is my personal favourite.

Well WJA96...it's good to see a user of all

....does it also match FSB like the others if so i think i could stop my search now lol and try another Gigabyte.

Also thanks cob

WJA96 · 6 Oct 2007 at 17:58

The P5K-E will hit the highest FSB, then the Abit, then the Gigabyte, but they all do 500 comfortably.

vocch · 6 Oct 2007 at 21:08

500fsb is good enough....ain't going for any world records anyway lol.... as long as it can max my cpu

....thanks WJA96.

Cob · 6 Oct 2007 at 21:13

I wouldn't expect 500mhz with a quad tho. But your CPU will max out before the board does.

vocch · 6 Oct 2007 at 21:37

Cob said:
I wouldn't expect 500mhz with a quad tho. But your CPU will max out before the board does.

Why i asked as anything over 445 on my Abit was a no go even using 8x multi....it scraped 4ghz for a super pi but would'nt do 1mhz over.

Thanks anyway Cob.

WJA96 · 6 Oct 2007 at 21:51

Cob said:
I wouldn't expect 500mhz with a quad tho. But your CPU will max out before the board does.

My good Xeon X3210 B3 will boot into windows at 6 x 500, but it's not stable.

BUFF · 7 Oct 2007 at 06:56

Cob said:
I wouldn't expect 500mhz with a quad tho. But your CPU will max out before the board does.

I've seen screenies/validation of an IP35-E with a Q6600 & 500fsb.

WJA96 · 7 Oct 2007 at 07:40

I never said it would - but they all do 500FSB with an E6400 in - I have 8-hour Orthos shots of all those, and a 5-minute Orthos on my B3 X3210 at 500FSB with the 6x multi. Next time I get in front of a proper PC I'll upload it.

vocch · 7 Oct 2007 at 12:58

BUFF said:
I've seen screenies/validation of an IP35-E with a Q6600 & 500fsb.

Not saying it's impossible but You would have to be very lucky to get 500fsb with a Q6600 on the Abit ip35-e....as the board i tried got absolutely nowhere near.

Cob · 7 Oct 2007 at 13:06

There's definitely a possibility of getting 500mhz with a Quad.

But I wouldn't expect to get it.

easyrider · 7 Oct 2007 at 13:09

I'm thinking of getting the X38 DQ6...

WJA96 have you had experience with this mobo?

drunkenmaster · 7 Oct 2007 at 16:13

my giga p35 dq6 is currently running, i think about 490 fine, it can boot 500, and run stuff, just seemed the cpu needed excess voltage for a not noticeably increase in speed, and temps from idle to load were getting silly.

as for vdroop, i have none so far. mislabled, stupid bios is one thing, IE 1.65v bios reading 1.61v in windows, (seems on my board lower voltages give bigger gaps, like 1.5v is giving me about 1.425 or something), but thats not vdroop, like i said, mislabled bios options basically. i got no drop in voltage from idle to full load at 3.9Ghz with 4 core loaded prime.

i just started up prime again, at 3.84Ghz and 480mhz(been ******* around trying to find mem limits in 4 stick combo with the 2.4/2.5 ratio), 1.568v, whacked on 4 core prime, still 1.568v. thats with blend, if i do small fft's its dropping to 1.552v, which is a 0.016v droop, which is essentially nothing at all. now thats all while set at 1.6v in the bios. 99% of cpu loaded stuff gives no droop like with blend, 3dmark, and games.