Driving test in own car...

Think about it this way. If you were an examiner in a car without dual controls, how much leeway would you give the pupil? If however the car has Duals then you can wait that bit longer to see if the pupil had spotted/reacted to the hazard etc.

You'll say I'm biased but its generally better to go for the test in a dual control car.

Rubbish. Absolute tosh.
 
Dont forget to check with your insurance company that you can drive the car while on test. If you sign the DL25 and have an accident and your insurance is invalid then your in the poo big time.

Why would I not be able to drive on the test with the insurance? I am insured to drive the car as a provisional licence holder so why would this not cover the driving test? It is my understanding that I can drive it whenever and wherever so long as I have somebody over 21 and held a licence for 3 years riding with me?

As for why I did this, I am getting increasingly frustrated with how long it is taking, and from my point of view the instructor has little interest in putting me in for a test if he can have me sitting in his car taking lessons for longer = more cash for him. 8 weeks lead time is stupid imo a complete waste of time. The past couple of lessons I have felt like I came out having learned nothing new and been down 20 quid for the privilege, I could get far more out of driving around in my own car all day long if I put that 20 quid in the tank instead. For these reasons I have taken things into my own hands and taken charge of the situation. I have at least some chance of passing on friday and if I do then great saved 7 weeks messing around and i'm out and about in my car awesome. If I fail then boo hoo, I'm down 50 quid and I take it as a learning experience. If I don't try then I can't pass, that is my philosophy.
 
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I passed in my own car.. as long as it meet their requirements, then they are happy.

Infact, I failed in my examiners car and passed in my car (despite its slightly "boyed up" appearance at the time!)

Also, make sure with your insurance company that you will be covered for a driving test.... they will try everything to get out of a claim, especially if some person racked up multiple deaths in a driving test with their newly insured car....
 
I don't get this whole insurance thing, I have read the policy document and the closest thing I can find is under 'limitation of use' which is class 1 and reads 'Use for social, domestic and pleasure purposes. Use in connection with the policyholder's and the policyholder's spouse's business and use for towing (other than for hire or reward) of any one disabled mechanically propelled vehicle or trailer. Use necessitated by the overhaul, upkeep and/or repair of the insured vehicle for the policyholder.
Excluding
Use for hire or reward, pacemaking, speed testing, rallying, reliability trials, commercial travelling or the carriage of goods or samples in connection with any trade or business. Use for any purpose in connection with the motor trade other than use necessitated by the overhaul upkeep and/or repair of the vehicle.'

nothing about any driving test anywhere.
 
very stupid question? But if you passed would you still be insured, i have peoples permiums going up from provisional to passed
 
very stupid question? But if you passed would you still be insured, i have peoples permiums going up from provisional to passed

Of course, regardless of the fact that they may make a charge when you tell them, unless you refuse to pay it and they inform you that your cover is revoked, you are ALWAYS covered.
 
my premium with quinn increases significantly (nearly double) when changing from provisional to full, even with pass plus too. I will be canceling and getting a cheaper deal after passing. I can only assume that should I pass, my current insurance is no longer valid and I couldn't then drive back home, not a problem as I have named drivers who could drive me back.
 
Why would I not be able to drive on the test with the insurance? I am insured to drive the car as a provisional licence holder so why would this not cover the driving test? It is my understanding that I can drive it whenever and wherever so long as I have somebody over 21 and held a licence for 3 years riding with me?

As for why I did this, I am getting increasingly frustrated with how long it is taking, and from my point of view the instructor has little interest in putting me in for a test if he can have me sitting in his car taking lessons for longer = more cash for him. 8 weeks lead time is stupid imo a complete waste of time. The past couple of lessons I have felt like I came out having learned nothing new and been down 20 quid for the privilege, I could get far more out of driving around in my own car all day long if I put that 20 quid in the tank instead. For these reasons I have taken things into my own hands and taken charge of the situation. I have at least some chance of passing on friday and if I do then great saved 7 weeks messing around and i'm out and about in my car awesome. If I fail then boo hoo, I'm down 50 quid and I take it as a learning experience. If I don't try then I can't pass, that is my philosophy.


First of all I'm not suggesting for a moment that your not ready to sit your test. All I'm asking is apart from the lead time, Which I allow for with my pupils, is there any valid reason from your instructor as to why you should not do your test. As for the 8 week lead time Test centers are busy places, Too bad if their timetable does not suit you.

As for insurance you will find that as a provisional license holder you require a suitably qualified driver to accompany you at all times. The driving examiner is not, for the purposes of the test, supervising you, so you need to make sure your insurance company will cover you for the test. It's YOUR responsibility to make sure that you have adequate insurance

Oh and I'm sure your instructor is desparate to separate you from £160, not. I meant whats he going to do with that? Emigrate to the Bahamas?

Oh and if you pass your better off not driving home, Most people are a bit too excited and are better off not driving the rest of the day they pass.

Good luck by the way.
 
my premium with quinn increases significantly (nearly double) when changing from provisional to full, even with pass plus too. I will be canceling and getting a cheaper deal after passing. I can only assume that should I pass, my current insurance is no longer valid and I couldn't then drive back home, not a problem as I have named drivers who could drive me back.


You'll be fine driving back home, you are not expected to notify your insurers of a change in circumstances such as that absolutely immediately. They would never in a million years be able to refuse a claim on that basis and I'd be astounded if they even considered trying to do so.
 
Oh and I'm sure your instructor is desparate to separate you from £160, not. I meant whats he going to do with that? Emigrate to the Bahamas?

Alternatively if he has not got many pupils he could use it to pay his rent, not all people are honest enough to not string people along.

My driving instructor failed to tell me that I drove too far from the kerb all the time until after the test I failed and then tried to sell me a block of lessons up to the next test, probably because he needed the cash.

I never spoke to him again and had no more lessons with anyone and passed easily in my own car by correcting something my instructor told me he knew about but hadn't mentioned to me.
 
No they are not supervising you in that capacity. You need to have valid insurance that covers you for the test.

Hey, I'm only an ADI, What would I know?

Tell you what. Just for the purpose of clarity I'll have a chat with the Senior Examining ADI for my area and ask the question again and I'll post the answer tommorow as to wether or not you need to make sure your policy covers a test as a provisional license holder. Bet I get the same answer I got the last time.

Oh and to the OP, I do know what I'm talking about when I tell you the examiners prefer cars with dual controls. Now none of the will admit it publically but do yourself a favour. At the very least hire the Arnold Clark Corsa with duals for the test.
 
Alternatively if he has not got many pupils he could use it to pay his rent, not all people are honest enough to not string people along.

My driving instructor failed to tell me that I drove too far from the kerb all the time until after the test I failed and then tried to sell me a block of lessons up to the next test, probably because he needed the cash.

I never spoke to him again and had no more lessons with anyone and passed easily in my own car by correcting something my instructor told me he knew about but hadn't mentioned to me.

True theres good and bad like most things in life. Although the OP stated the instructor could not fit him in for test as he was too busy.

Personally when someones ready for test we have a date already booked. If the pupil and I feel there not ready we change it. If they fail then they get the first available cancellation/date and I change the diary to suit. Tests take priority.

Still the problem will go away partly shortly when learners have to do minimum hours.
 
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Oh and while I remember. The pass rate in a dual controlled car is SIGNIFICANTLY higher than in one without dual.

Wonder why that is? Maybe the examiner took action earlier then he/she might have in a car with dual controls?
 
No they are not supervising you in that capacity.

Which capacity are they not supervising you in? If they are not supervising you for the purposes of the Road Traffic Act then ever single person who sits a test is committing an offence and is liable for 3-6 points.
 
Oh and while I remember. The pass rate in a dual controlled car is SIGNIFICANTLY higher than in one without dual.

Wonder why that is? Maybe the examiner took action earlier then he/she might have in a car with dual controls?


I think when you are in a car of your own you NEED a certain level of competency, when I failed my first test he said I did alsmost everything else perfect, if I hadnt screwed my menouver up I would have passed. I think the advice should be that unless your 110% confident in your driving... take it in your instructors car.
 
Which capacity are they not supervising you in? If they are not supervising you for the purposes of the Road Traffic Act then ever single person who sits a test is committing an offence and is liable for 3-6 points.

Your missing my point and I suspect I'm not being very clear either. Forums arnt the best at times.

You need to make sure your insurance covers taking the test. A lot of insurance companies will not cover this automatically and charge more for it.
 
Wonder why that is? Maybe the examiner took action earlier then he/she might have in a car with dual controls?

Or more likely is that the driver hasn't had any proper lessons and been taught by their parents?
 
like I say, i've driven loads in my car, am perfectly confident that I can go out for a drive without incident, still a little anxious about a test though. On the test i'm on my own, passenger is there not to give advice, but to scrutinize, so it's different, will be alright though.

Also, Muncher is it you that works in insurance? If so I'll take your word over any 'ADI', I firmly believe they are all out to string you along at some level or another.
 
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