Picasso Or Zafira

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Looking at a cheaper car now and bassically its one of the above or a sutible other choice. Looking at £4k now (X, Y or 01 plates). So which one is better the fench or the other one..

Also what specs of both would i need for - some sort of aircon/climite, cruise and cd player?
 
Zafira is less horrible.

Most French stuff at the moment is dropping to bits, in fact FIAT stopped selling the Ulyse (Pug 807) because it was pulling their average reliability down, was statistically the worst in the range.
 
[TW]Fox;10241555 said:
Zafira is better but only in the same way an arm amputation is better than a leg amputation.
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Depends which arm tbh! :p

I would say the Zafira personally.
 
[TW]Fox;10241985 said:
Just get a Volvo Estate or something. You'll get 3 kiddychairs in the back.
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Or mondeo estate?! (actually asking as I don't know the size but I would assume for 3k you might get a mk3 with some toys and a decent petrol engine)
 
ste_bla said:
Looking for good reliability and a galaxy will be a R? at that price so..
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So will instantly fall apart, die, and most likely take your house with it, because lets face it, a 1998 car is pretty much useless in this day and age...

Seems to me that you are less interested in getting a "decent" car for your money (in this case a decent estate, you'll get a MK3 mondeo for £4k now I'd imagine), and more interested with keeping up with the Jones' who have just bought their boggo '57 plate picasso on extortionate finance, only to be in for a shock when the depreciation hits?
 
i tryed both the models you're suggesting

zafira felt horrible in comparison. the old model just felt so drab inside. at least the picasso has a few quirks

and ive posted about my car before, its a mode of transport for me. im a bit of a petrol head, but due to having 6 points and a small ncb, im somewhat limited by what i can drive at the moment.

the enormous boot has come in handy on several occassions and ive owned mine comming on 3 years now, its never once skipped a bit. no electrical gremlins, nothing

absolutely flawless.

cant recommend them enough. But can you take how common they are ? its the only car where ive seen 4 of them in row one after the other .. they're stupidly common.
 
paradigm said:
So will instantly fall apart, die, and most likely take your house with it, because lets face it, a 1998 car is pretty much useless in this day and age...

Seems to me that you are less interested in getting a "decent" car for your money (in this case a decent estate, you'll get a MK3 mondeo for £4k now I'd imagine), and more interested with keeping up with the Jones' who have just bought their boggo '57 plate picasso on extortionate finance, only to be in for a shock when the depreciation hits?
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Not really, I have no issues with owning older cars but with getting a different job and longer hours (hopefully) i dont want to leave my wife on her on sorting out problems and so in theroy a newer car means lesser issues hopefully

I did look at newer (56 plates) cars and lots of finance but after thinking about it i said no to myself..

MrLOL said:
cant recommend them enough. But can you take how common they are ? its the only car where ive seen 4 of them in row one after the other .. they're stupidly common.
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Cheers, common is good means more parts etc and as i drive for a job its just transport (well wifes mainly)

oweneades said:
Or mondeo estate?! (actually asking as I don't know the size but I would assume for 3k you might get a mk3 with some toys and a decent petrol engine)
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Problem with that is that its hard getting in or baby in the middle seat with low headroom and the wife has back problems and has trouble getting 2 into the back of a vectra
 
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[TW]Fox;10241985 said:
Just get a Volvo Estate or something. You'll get 3 kiddychairs in the back.
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why ?

if your buying a car as a petrolhead, then granted you want one that can go round corners at ear splitting speed without rolling

if however you buy a car to drive it normally, and take the family out in it, you wont be going that fast round corners. you'll be taking them at a sensible speed and you wont notice any extra body roll.

they're practical, more roomy than estates and feel safer due to their higher driving position

if your not buying it as a mode of transport, whats wrong with an MPV ? peoples assumptions about why they're bad all seem to revolve around them not going round corners fast. you dont need to !
 
The car I've owned that had the most problems was the ONLY car I owned from new... something to mull over perhaps.

And yet again, a MK3 Mondeo estate will be easily sub £4000 and will be 2002 or newer.
 
ste_bla said:
Cheers, common is good means more parts etc and as i drive for a job its just transport (well wifes mainly)
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there is that

somebody knocked my offside wing mirror off at my old house. it was a rough neighbourhood so nobody ever owned up to it.

needless to say i had to replace it off my own back, had no problem getting another from a scrappy as the early model's wing mirrors are all black.
 
MrLOL said:
they're practical, more roomy than estates and feel safer due to their higher driving position

if your not buying it as a mode of transport, whats wrong with an MPV ? peoples assumptions about why they're bad all seem to revolve around them not going round corners fast. you dont need to !
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More practical? You end up climbing into the boody things, you cant fit anything in the boot except for perhaps a french loaf, useless therefore for taking "the whole family" out/on holiday.

More roomy? Not if any of the ones I've been in are anything to go by.

"feel safer" - ah, the placebo effect, I have some magic beans here that will make you more attractive to women, want them? £500 each.

The biggest problem with an MPV isn't their cornering abilities, its the fact that they look like a van with windows, and are no better at ANYTHING than a decent estate.
 
paradigm said:
More practical? You end up climbing into the boody things, you cant fit anything in the boot except for perhaps a french loaf, useless therefore for taking "the whole family" out/on holiday.

More roomy? Not if any of the ones I've been in are anything to go by.
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what complete and utter rubbish. Your paraphrasing

the only way that MPVs have small boots is if they're 7 seaters and you put the 7 seats up. So far we've talked about the picasso, which is 5 seats, and the zafira which is 7. but the car doesnt "have no room" it has "No room if you have both rear seats up" and not forgetting, with the zafira you can put the seats in the floor, giving you your boot space back.

and how can they not be more roomy, you've got more headspace, and because they have a van like profile, the boot is much tallerand can fit more in. whats more, on the picasso you can completely remove the entire seats, leaving nothing but flat loading area that could swallow the tardis

as a perfect example, last week we went shopping. I allways leave our kids puschair in the back of the car. never a problem. But the day before, we'd taken his bike out for a ride. So we had his bike, his pushchair, and still managed to get a weeks supermarket shopping. after seeing my dads mazda 6 with his pushchair in, theres no way there'd be any room left after you put his pushchair in and a weekly shop.
 
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