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8800GT AND 8800GTS both to have 112 steam processors?

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The plot thickens. Spotted this via VR Zone.
 
Only downside I see there is the memory bus at 256 bit. Interesting that it shows the 'new' 8800GTS with 512MB and 128 SP's and not 112 SP's (not that i'm complaining!).

Matthew
 
If that is right, I might trade in my 8800gtx for a new 8800gts if it runs cooler, is smaller, and performs better than current 8800gts.

Although I find it odd they would name it 8800gts as well. Could be confusing.
 
Bear in mind that this isn't an official nVIDIA chart, hence take with the usual pinch of salt.

Mind you - we all get a bit too hung up on the 256 bit thing. The 128 bit 7600GT outperformed the 256 bit 6800GT and there are plenty of other examples.
 
Next we'll be plugging in USB pen drives into graphics cards to improve the performance and the 'start' of textures lol.

Matthew
 
They should have made an 8800GLT tbh.

The new 8800GTS is looking very tempting, I rekon I'll be getting me one of those, or an 8800GT.
 
Uriel said:
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The plot thickens. Spotted this via VR Zone.
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Nope, I can't see that really. Goes against all the other rumours and logic tbh.

I can see the 8800GT having 96 steam processors and I can believe that the new 8800 GTS will have 112 steam processors. If you look at the current 8800 GTS cards with rivatuner they already have 112 steam processors but 16 of them are switched off so it would be really simple and zero cost for Nvidia to release a 112 steam processor 8800 GTS.

However, a 8800 GTS with 128 steam processors, the same as a GTX is very doubtful. Even with the smaller memory and the 256bit memory interface, these cards will be almost as fast a 8800 GTX so if they are practically the same price as a 8800 GTX then nobody will buy them and if they are substantially cheaper then nobody will buy a 8800 GTX anymore. Makes no economic sense.

Also they had to put the 8800 GTX on a bigger pcb to the GTS since they couldn't get everything working with all the steam processors, memory interface etc (the GTS boards have memory slots for the extra memory a GTX has) so unless they have cracked this then it looks untrue.

And if they are on a 65nm process they ought to run cooler and potentially overclock more than a 8800 GTX which will more than outweigh the reduced memory interface and ram.

I can only see that 8800 GTS existing as per that chart if they brought a new 8800 GTX out first with say a 512bit interface, 1gb of ram and 160 steam processors.
 
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However, a 8800 GTS with 128 steam processors, the same as a GTX is very doubtful. Even with the smaller memory and the 256bit memory interface, these cards will be almost as fast a 8800 GTX so if they are practically the same price as a 8800 GTX then nobody will buy them and if they are substantially cheaper then nobody will buy a 8800 GTX anymore. Makes no economic sense.
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Didn't 'seem' to make much economic sense for amd to release the 2900pro when for all real purposes it is an 2900xt. What if they have a stock of failed gtx cores they want to used up?

Matthew
 
Scougar said:
Didn't 'seem' to make much economic sense for amd to release the 2900pro when for all real purposes it is an 2900xt. What if they have a stock of failed gtx cores they want to used up?

Matthew
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Because they are on a new fabrication process! Or do you mean a stock of failed gtx cores for the new gtx replacement which is yet to be released?

That would make some sense except for the fact you you release the new top end card first otherwise your cards with failed cores will equal or outperform your current top end card and you will stop selling 8800 GTX's.

The 2900 pro might be a case of just trying to shift some cards without the embarrassment of a price drop on the 2900xt. One forum guy got his 2900 pro and it even came with a 2900xt bios. It was just a 2900xt in a 2900pro box :eek:

Plus selling failed cores off or shifting large quantities of non failed cores at slower clock speeds on pro models is a fine principle and has been done for years but not when it's your brand new chip from a new very expensive fabrication process!

And if the 65nm is the mistake bit, how can they be failed 8800 GTX cores if all their steam processors work? Okay, perhaps the hiccup is the memory interface speed but they could release a card with 112 steam processors which would sell well anyway.

Plus, Gibbo has already confirmed the new 8800 GTS has only 112 steam processors and he should know.
 
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I think you're onto something with them trying to shift R600s quickly. If the RV670 has much better DX10 performance than the R600 it will render the 2900XT just about obsolete pretty quickly.

I don't think it's a coincidence that all these cards are coming out at about the same time as Crysis.
 
when you (if you have crysis beta) signed up in the graphics card bit it had these cards in the options of what you have.
 
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