You doubt you'll buy the sequel to your most played game? Surprised at that. I'll definitely be buying it.
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You doubt you'll buy the sequel to your most played game? Surprised at that. I'll definitely be buying it.
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I just had a play on the demo and i think last years controls were a lot better and they should have left them the way they were.I was playing a match as Orton and he seems to walk around the ring like Kryten from red dwarf,seems way to slow and sluggish for me
Yups, so far it hasn't impressed me at all although I still need to play it a lot more as I said the same about Smackdown 2k7 - my first smackdown game.
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I bought every Smackdown game up until Smackdown vs Raw when they really started to milk the franchise. The added features in that game might as well of being as a patch for the last (as least they wouldn't of taken a backwards step with the roster). They don't care about the quality of the game anymore. They want to include just enough content to make people want to buy it but not enough that it would hinder next years release (e.g being able to update current wrestles attire to new gimmicks etc).
The only way to make them actually make a great wrestling game that will stand the test of time e.g Smackdown 2 or No Mercy is to vote with your wallet!
Yeah I agree with that, it's like the Tony Hawk series now, it has little/no competition so they don't need to do anything big or make any huge changes and improvements to win people over.
The last Smackdown game I played before 2007 was on the PS2, and honestly it has barely changed since then at all, just a few minor things really. Even comparing it to the PS one version, it's just small changes.
The last Smackdown game I played before 2007 was on the PS2, and honestly it has barely changed since then at all, just a few minor things really. Even comparing it to the PS one version, it's just small changes.
Last years Smackdown vs Raw was awesome though and definitely the best Wrestling game since No Mercy.I bought every Smackdown game up until Smackdown vs Raw when they really started to milk the franchise. The added features in that game might as well of being as a patch for the last (as least they wouldn't of taken a backwards step with the roster). They don't care about the quality of the game anymore. They want to include just enough content to make people want to buy it but not enough that it would hinder next years release (e.g being able to update current wrestles attire to new gimmicks etc).
The only way to make them actually make a great wrestling game that will stand the test of time e.g Smackdown 2 or No Mercy is to vote with your wallet!
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Yep same with that franchise I stopped after THPS 4.
As long as people keep buying these games year after year businesses will keep making them.
2007 Average game = sells well
2008 Average game = Sells well
or
2007 + 2008 Great game = Sells Great
Clearly from a business perspective the first option (yearly releases) are better and equal more sales. From an artistic perspective it's clearly worse. People have to try and vote with their wallet on cash cow games and reward companies that invest in making a genuinely awesome games that improves each time on the last. All the best Software houses don't make games on a yearly basis and by enlarge they make the better games Bioware, Bethsoft, Rockstar North, Blizzard etc.
Hostile_18
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Matches could be over in a minute (approximately), with a finisher nearly straight away. The pacing was therefore terrible. Much requested fan requests were left out and your left with a game you want again only a year after, with maybe a couple of characters (but with ones taken away). How long were you playing Smackdown 2 and No Mercy for? For me it was a long time after that before I needed something else.
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Fair enough just to me it seems the last 4 releases are "give a little, take away a little" and the end result is a game that isn't really improved at all just a little different. Don't get me wrong still good but not worth a yearly purchase if you own a previous game by Yukes.
I bought every Smackdown game up until Smackdown vs Raw when they really started to milk the franchise. The added features in that game might as well of being as a patch for the last (as least they wouldn't of taken a backwards step with the roster). They don't care about the quality of the game anymore. They want to include just enough content to make people want to buy it but not enough that it would hinder next years release (e.g being able to update current wrestles attire to new gimmicks etc).
The only way to make them actually make a great wrestling game that will stand the test of time e.g Smackdown 2 or No Mercy is to vote with your wallet!
I kid you not you've just taken the words out of my mouth
Just to satisfy my own curiosity I've actually gone to the bother of checking on Wiki to narrow down what exactly was the last wwe game I bought and it was indeed the last game before the franchise moved over to Smackdown v Raw..... WWE Smackdown: Here comes the Pain and the reason why I haven't bought a wwe game since then is because the difference between Here comes the Pain and it's predecessor (wwe smackdown: shut your mouth) was marginal at best, in truth it was just the roster that had changed.
Anyways because I've given the games such a wide birth over the last 4 years I decided to download this and to see if it's still the same game I used to love playing..... well it isn't! The series has seemingly taken a massive backwards step and all the flaws that were there 4 years ago haven't been rectified all this time later, criminal really given how the hardware has moved on I mean seriously loading screens inbetween entrances? The characters still looking like they're in a difference dimension to the arena?
Gameplay wise I agree with what has been said before, awful controls and a real lack of simple grapple moves which made the previous games so addictive.
It goes without saying that I'll be giving this one a miss and in truth even before playing the demo I preferred the look of TNA's first venture into computer games so hopefully that delivers where this has failed miserably
Doesn't look like this game will be worth buying, just seems to have removed a lot of the grapples, made the ai even more retarded (opponents randomly go out side of the ring and just stand there, or get stuck walking against weapons) which i thought would be impossible and made an even bigger laughing stock of the commentary..again something i thought would be next to impossible. Have to wonder why jbl starts argueing with himself during the demo.
Only thing they seem to have spent any time on is improving the textures slightly and reanimating some moves. 07 wasn't that good either but it at least had a control system which was easy to get to grips with, this new system just seems akward..and why is it they seem to prat around with the controls all the time these days? I think yukes need to learn the phrase "if its not broken LEAVE IT THE HELL ALONE".
Only thing they seem to have spent any time on is improving the textures slightly and reanimating some moves. 07 wasn't that good either but it at least had a control system which was easy to get to grips with, this new system just seems akward..and why is it they seem to prat around with the controls all the time these days? I think yukes need to learn the phrase "if its not broken LEAVE IT THE HELL ALONE".
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i like the fact they changed it rather than just rehashed last years makes it feel like a new game and it looks amazing !
anyone got a list of the matches available ?
I know Cryme Tyme are on it as well which is awesome !
anyone got a list of the matches available ?
I know Cryme Tyme are on it as well which is awesome !
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having just got back from watching smackdown in birmingham last night i shall be downloading asap 
Hello matey. Not seen you post in a while!
Anyway, I agree with what you say. Loads of people have complained of a rehashed title... Then they all complain that it's too different (controls)
.Quite liked it personally, liking the slower pace of the game and it feels much more realistic than past arcadey 100 mph matches.
The new finisher system is a bit annoying, having to build it up twice before you can execute a finisher... but thats just getting used to a new system I suppose. It should also stop matches finishing so quickly.
I'm also enjoying the fact that your matches do now last around 5-10+ minutes now because it's harder to hit big power moves.
Locking in a finisher with Rey Mysterio is a bit of a pain... I'm so used to locking it in and moving at the same time... which you can no longer do because the roll command is
RB+RT and move
lock a finisher is also RB+RT
So I constantly find myself rolling around the ring when trying to lock a finisher.
Taunts don't add onto your match bar as much this year, or at all at times.
The commentary is hella buggy though, constantly skipping out lines and jumping between characters.
Oh... and Smackdown commentary is the worst of the lot, it's last years commentary but Bradshaw reads out Tazz's lines and does them horribly! Coles commentary is just last years with the word Tazz cut out of it :-/
It's great to hear Joey Styles in a video game again though
Crowd noises during intros are a little better this year, specifically during long intros.
Undertaker walked down in almost silence at points last year, this year there is a chorus of cheers which is better.
It feels like it's lost a lot of moves though which is a pain. Only up and down power grapples have extra moves to go to, and down is submission. So your character has effectively lost 8 moves (left and right).
However they've reworked a lot of the animations for moves this year, a lot of them are much crisper and look a lot better.
Orton's RKO looks much more realistic.
I will be picking this up, it's got a few niggles that I've found annoying as I've said... but it feels like they've completely reworked the game and are trying to take it in another direction this year.
Shame there is no Sandman or Tommy Dreamer in the demo
PITA that Van Dam isn't in the game at all (I do realise he's not contracted to WWE anymore), but having him and Sabu in a decent video game would have been brilliant.
I hope they sort out CAW mode this year, as last years left a lot out and there weren't many options (especially with only having about 10 hairstyles!).
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I'm not 100% sure on the things like the powerups, super powerful punching, reverse everything, nothing can be reversed etc.... hmmm...
On the one hand you think that they're trying to create a game that is more of a simulation and realistic portrayal of wrestling... and on the other it's return to it's arcadey roots...
The new finisher system is a bit annoying, having to build it up twice before you can execute a finisher... but thats just getting used to a new system I suppose. It should also stop matches finishing so quickly.
I'm also enjoying the fact that your matches do now last around 5-10+ minutes now because it's harder to hit big power moves.
Locking in a finisher with Rey Mysterio is a bit of a pain... I'm so used to locking it in and moving at the same time... which you can no longer do because the roll command is
RB+RT and move
lock a finisher is also RB+RT
So I constantly find myself rolling around the ring when trying to lock a finisher.
Taunts don't add onto your match bar as much this year, or at all at times.
The commentary is hella buggy though, constantly skipping out lines and jumping between characters.
Oh... and Smackdown commentary is the worst of the lot, it's last years commentary but Bradshaw reads out Tazz's lines and does them horribly! Coles commentary is just last years with the word Tazz cut out of it :-/
It's great to hear Joey Styles in a video game again though
Crowd noises during intros are a little better this year, specifically during long intros.
Undertaker walked down in almost silence at points last year, this year there is a chorus of cheers which is better.
It feels like it's lost a lot of moves though which is a pain. Only up and down power grapples have extra moves to go to, and down is submission. So your character has effectively lost 8 moves (left and right).
However they've reworked a lot of the animations for moves this year, a lot of them are much crisper and look a lot better.
Orton's RKO looks much more realistic.
I will be picking this up, it's got a few niggles that I've found annoying as I've said... but it feels like they've completely reworked the game and are trying to take it in another direction this year.
Shame there is no Sandman or Tommy Dreamer in the demo
PITA that Van Dam isn't in the game at all (I do realise he's not contracted to WWE anymore), but having him and Sabu in a decent video game would have been brilliant.
I hope they sort out CAW mode this year, as last years left a lot out and there weren't many options (especially with only having about 10 hairstyles!).
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I'm not 100% sure on the things like the powerups, super powerful punching, reverse everything, nothing can be reversed etc.... hmmm...
On the one hand you think that they're trying to create a game that is more of a simulation and realistic portrayal of wrestling... and on the other it's return to it's arcadey roots...
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