Legal eagles:employment experts

[Surfer]

Right, i know OCUK is a haven for the great legal and philosophical minds to discuss weighty issues that trouble mankind.
So i wonder if you could take a break from tackling world peace and feeding the poor to solving this un


Atm, i work 2 shifts they are on separate days.

This will be changed to 2 shifts on the same day straight after each other...
Although its not straight after.. one overlaps the other.

12:45pm - 5pm and 4:45pm - 10:15pm


Now at the moment 2 people do these shifts (1 shift each and the total hours involved = 9 & 3/4 hrs ok?)
When i take over the 2 shifts my hours will be 9 1/2 even though i will be doing the same shifts as the two people.

Is this right? Am i just splitting hairs if i object to them paying me less than they would if they had 2 people doing the shifts.

I know the difference is only a quarter of an hour but it all adds up over time.
Why should 2 people doing the same shifts get paid more even though ill be doing the same hours as them?
Yes the shifts overlap - it should just mean they pay me for both shifts not the one. (which is what they seem to be wanting to do)

 

[iviv]

I don't see why they would pay you more. After all, when they had 2 people working for them, they are getting 2 peoples worth of work done. You are only one man, so can only do one mans worth of work.

 

[Surfer]

I don't see why they would pay you more. After all, when they had 2 people working for them, they are getting 2 peoples worth of work done. You are only one man, so can only do one mans worth of work.

good answer .

"you are only one man, so can only do one mans worth of work"

If that were really true and they believed that then they would hire someone else to do the 2nd job for 15 minutes because like you said i can only do one mans worth of work.

But they arent: they are just going to pay me less.

In a way what they are proposing is discrimination - because the work is about the job not about the person or persons. I'm not entirely clear on it unfortunately.


In the contract it says they will pay X amount for X amount of hours. It doesnt mention if those hours overlap then you get less amount of money. There are 2 distinct jobs if i am hired for both i should get paid for both.

it just so happens that for 15 minutes i will be doing 2 jobs.

So if they were to pay me for just the one job is this not a way they have of cost-cutting because by coincidence i am working the next shift so they figure they dont need to pay me for 15 minutes of the 2nd job because i will aready be there in capacity as 1st job.

Basically - the fact that i will be there in the same place at the same time doing job 1 means they figure they dont need to pay me for job 2.

see what im saying?

 

[semi-pro waster]

I'd imagine you to be on a bit of a sticky wicket trying to get them to pay you double for the 15 minutes a day, it sounds like they could simply be 'rationalising' and doing away with one person since they don't need that extra 15 minutes covered.

Make absolutely certain that you know your legal rights in regards to your breaks but other than that I don't think there is too much you can do I'm afraid.

//edit, when you say different jobs, what do you mean? How will you be doing two different jobs in the same 15 minutes?

 

[Surfer]

I'd imagine you to be on a bit of a sticky wicket trying to get them to pay you double for the 15 minutes a day, it sounds like they could simply be 'rationalising' and doing away with one person since they don't need that extra 15 minutes covered.

Make absolutely certain that you know your legal rights in regards to your breaks but other than that I don't think there is too much you can do I'm afraid.

//edit, when you say different jobs, what do you mean? How will you be doing two different jobs in the same 15 minutes?

well they are not really different jobs. Same job different shifts.

I think i'll just leave it, ive realised they can get round what ive been saying in my above post by doing the following:

They could just change the hours of the 2 shifts to read

12:45 - 5pm = 4.25 hrs
5pm - 10:15 = 5 .25 hrs = 9.5 hrs

and they'll just be annoyed at me for uhhmm being pedantic lol.

oh well for 2 seconds it was going somewhere wasnt it