Football Fixtures 27-28th October **Spoilers**
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It matters for the future of our national team, we need young and talented players who get to play first team football in a hard competition such as the premiership. Arsenal have been consistently poor for this after the break up of their English defence years ago (talking Lee Dixon, Nigel Winterburn times).
I see less and less young English talent emerging and I don't think it's just coincidence that England under perform more and more which ends up with the Manager being the scape goat. It's not just Arsenal, but as I said they've been one of the worst teams for it in quite a few seasons.
I don't think you can blame a player, how many times do you see a player commit a hand ball offense which a ref doesn't see for them to say "hold on a second ref, you should have given the opposition a free kick there"? It simply doesn't happen. It should always be up to the referee to spot fouls and award a free kick/penalty.
For the record I don't think Carra holding on to Fabregas's shirt today was a penalty, there simply wasn't enough in it for Fabregas to be denied a goal scoring opportunity, Fabregas lost his balence by himself and in fact didn't fall the way he was being tugged (as baz said).
also Baz, is it going to be a habit of yours that when a team misses out on a penalty versus your lot you'll rationalise it with another obscure incident in which Liverpool should apparently have had a penalty? i'm pretty sure you did it last week as well heh
Its not my fault Andy Gray is so anti Liverpool that he won't show decisions that go against us and ive not said we should have had a penalty anyway
Its not my fault Andy Gray is so anti Liverpool that he won't show decisions that go against us and ive not said we should have had a penalty anyway
true actually. same as last week surprisingly you only say you should have been given a penalty if the other team had got one
Baz
'The first Lescott pen appeal was a 50-50 one but had that been given then so should have a similar incident on Voronin slightly later'
You're right. We can.
Might get someone with real passion in the middle. The kind of performances Hargreaves put in, in the World Cup.
Probably is better for his family. Wouldn't want his dad getting nicked for touting tickets again would we?
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I was just trying to appease the bitters so they didn't feel too hard done bytrue actually. same as last week surprisingly you only say you should have been given a penalty if the other team had got one
Baz
'The first Lescott pen appeal was a 50-50 one but had that been given then so should have a similar incident on Voronin slightly later'
But seriously do you think the Fabregas incident was anymore a pen than the Sagna handball? I don't
If the England youths were better then they would play wouldn't they?
Fact is, most of Englands younger players just aren't as good as some of the foreigners coming in.
I was just trying to appease the bitters so they didn't feel too hard done by
But seriously do you think the Fabregas incident was anymore a pen than the Sagna handball? I don't
i didn't think the fabregas incident was half as bad as the ones last week to be honest.
Obviously but for different reasons. In what way could have Carragher injured Fabregas by tugging his shirt?
erm yep, loved him for it though.
Well you see things differently to me then.
how so? it was a premeditated foul so i din't think you could get away from the fact it was cheating, he knew what he was going to do and he went out and did it. as it was it was done for the good of the team and everyone could see why he had done it and the united fans there respected his decision to 'take one for the team' when he knew he was going to get red carded.
Surely thats different to diving as he knows full well that he's going to be sent off for his offence rather than in the case of a dive, they are trying to get away with it.