What does the 'PD' stand for in Golf TDi PD130, PD150 etc..?

er why are they 'crap'?

HDIs are not 150k... no idea where you got that from. :confused:

The 1.4 8 valve psa engine is 150,000 miles ive just double checked on autodata

PSA is crap, Ive driven EVERY psa hdi upto 2.2 and wasnt impressed.
 
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The 1.4 8 valve psa engine is 150,000 miles ive just double checked on autodata

PSA is crap, Ive driven EVERY psa hdi upto 2.2 and wasnt impressed.

thats the same engine in the saxo. i very much doubt its 150k. i cba to check tho :p

and the HDI engines are very solid lumps. if you werent impressed, what were you expecting? its a diesel at the end of the day and a very good one at that.
 
thats the same engine in the saxo. i very much doubt its 150k. i cba to check tho :p

and the HDI engines are very solid lumps. if you werent impressed, what were you expecting? its a diesel at the end of the day and a very good one at that.

no saxo was ever fitted with a hdi engine. it had a 1.4 petrol and some old 1.5 diesels

i own a diesel my self (well getting rid this week) and its much nicer then the hdi's ive driven, even though mine (1.8 tdci) is regarded as a poor, unrelaible engine on ffoc.
 
no saxo was ever fitted with a hdi engine. it had a 1.4 petrol and some old 1.5 diesels

i own a diesel my self (well getting rid this week) and its much nicer then the hdi's ive driven, even though mine (1.8 tdci) is regarded as a poor, unrelaible engine on ffoc.

for some reason, i had the PSA 1.4 8v petrol lump in my head, im tired, my bad :p

i also own the 2.0 HDI 110, a very good engine and ive heard nothing but good things about them. Im also on the HDI/TDCI forums and theyre generally seen as a very good engine. The french group PSA was WAY ahead of the competition in terms of diesels a few years back, before the 1.9DT it developed, there was no real competition. Ford was struggling to come up with a decent diesel and thats when they joined forces with PSA. They produced the TDCI. PSA still to this day manufacture most of the TDCIs.

granted the HDI had the crankshaft pulley issue with a few and the TDCI had the injector problem, but overall both engines certainly arnt bad for what they are. Also, PSA dont make 'crap' engines, if they did, they wouldnt be one of the current leaders in diesel development of today.
 
The PSA HDi is crap............thats why BMW use it:rolleyes:

PSA have a reputation of building excellent derv engines, the 1.9 was a solid engine, the 2.0 HDi is an excellent engine and the 1.6 in the 207/307 is also a very good engine.

Far more refined than any 1.9 Golf you'll find.
 
The reason that VW expects cambelts to be changed at 60k intervals is that PD engines generate a lot of torque in a "peaky" fashion - hence the need for dual mass flywheels to soak up the momentary excesses.

Every cylinder on every internal combustion piston engine develops strong torque peaks, diesel more so than petrol. Dual mass flywheels are simply to reduce NVH (noise, vibration and harshness) which is transmitted through the drivetrain by the non-constant crank speed of engines with a small number of cylinders. Until they fall apart after a short distance of course.
 
Cambelt on the PD's is 60k/4years (mine is nearly at 120k ;( ). They aren't the most refined TD engines but they have character ;)

Quite like mine, but I wouldn't go as far as saying they are the best, they do have issues.

The new 2.0TDi in the Tiguan is a CR.
 
[TW]Fox;10381566 said:
Good to see the term 'character' is still being used as a better sounding subsitute for 'flaws' :D

I don't think they have 'flaws', they are just different to a CR setup. Sure, the noise and power delivery is different and OK they do require specialist oil but I don't believe you can call them flaws.
 
The power delivery is lumpy, they sound like old school diesel engines and require the sort of servicing regeimes you'd expect from a hgher end petrol BMW or Audi.

This, in a VW Golf, is a flaw, not character.
 
[TW]Fox;10381762 said:
The power delivery is lumpy, they sound like old school diesel engines and require the sort of servicing regeimes you'd expect from a hgher end petrol BMW or Audi.

This, in a VW Golf, is a flaw, not character.


Lets not forget the hesitancy at 1800rpm - working as intended ;)
 
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