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Why does dx10 destroy high end graphic cards?

imo think about the first ever dx9 card, most of the dx9 games would kill it just like dx10 does with our first ever dx10 cards.
 
IceShock said:
imo think about the first ever dx9 card, most of the dx9 games would kill it just like dx10 does with our first ever dx10 cards.
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but the whole point of DX10 was not more eye candy but a more efficiant API, so the fact it is 2 times slower than DX9 means it doesnt do what it was intended to do.
 
It IS extremely playable on max settings... in XP.

If you do the cvar tricks detailed on the crysis forums you can run in XP, force the 'very high' setting, have it looking pretty much as good as in DX10 (go check the comparison screenshots) and at better performance than you get under medium settings in vista.

Medium vista settings = 15-25fps, very high XP settings = 20-30fps. 1360x768 (HDTV)

I think there will be more optimisations over the next 6months or so but don't expect it to run nicely on release :(

3.2ghz quad, GTS320, 2gb, vista/xp dual boot.
 
I dont know if anyone is willing to try...but people with the overclocked Quad cores and your getting crap fps, try leaving your cpu at stock, see if the overclock is jaffing the game up somehow.

Worth a try.
 
yeah i agaree , they said dx10 was going to be twice as efficient as dx9 meaning more eye candy at the same fps or the same eye candy at more fps.

dx10 so far has been a monumental dissapointment, it has not performed as was marketed. I would describe dx10 performance as "abysmal".

DX10= the emperors new clothes, also when you see dx9 in xp doing those supposed "dx10 only" effects & running it better it leaves you feeling cheated.
 
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Starting to look like the likes of Anandtech etc... were right, these cards (8800's/2900's) aint powerfull enough for Dx10, but who cares really, were a year down the line from those (6 months after 2900's), those cards are now old in gfx cards life terms, thats why the refreshers are coming now, and if it wasn't for ATi being so late, and having a poor card, Nvidia would have killed of their first gen 8 series months ago, its very unusual for a card to go on for a year without being replaced, and we've only got 1x game using Dx10 (Bioshock), and a couple of Dx9 games that have Dx10 patches slapped on em, by the time we get a decent amount of Dx10 games were even going to be past the 9800's/R700's next gen cards, as you've seen how much Dx10 we've got after a year, bugger all, pointless buying them for Dx10.
 
yay seems my plan to keep my x1950xt is really paying off! Ill buy a proper 2nd gen Dx 10 card when there out & play crysis then and forget about it for now.
 
Oxy said:
yay seems my plan to keep my x1950xt is really paying off! Ill buy a proper 2nd gen Dx 10 card when there out & play crysis then and forget about it for now.
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Glad to see I'm no the only one who kept they're perfectly good working card ;)
 
Have to laugh at everyone saying <30fps in Crysis isn't playable. Doom3 ran far far slower than that with everything maxed on then-current hardware. Hell, I even remember when Quake 3 first appeared and we were all turning stuff off left, right and centre to get it to run at 30fps!
 
Because they aren't fast enough and it's fairly new to developers, so both games and drivers probably aren't optimised as much as DX9 ones.

Anyone who bought a gf8/HD2xxx purely on the basis of DX10 probably didn't do enough research. I got mine because I wanted more power in DX9 and it seemed like a good price at the time.
 
Seems to me developers arent doing an oblivion on it, and simply sticking in options to kill all graphics cards anymore.

Seems the current approach is to cap the max DX9 settings at something an 8800gts can run well at any res, and throw out the rulebook on dx10 and use all those nasty horribly performing but good looking algorithms. Or in the case of some other games... just plain use bad algorithms that look no better.
 
I got my 320 for dx9 my x800 was playing up,half the people said at the time, first round of dx10 cards for dx10 will not be that good and only get for dx9, we had posts and posts about it.
I alway planned on upgreding nov time like most people we guessed that the 2nd generation would be out in nov,but that going to be 6 to 8 months later.
 
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I think if the cards had been out on time (ATI) then we more likey been very close to the 9800/r700 now and crysis would be running great on them
 
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Mainly due to the particle effects i beleive, graphics cards mostly struggle in foggy type area's where their is lots of particles to handle.
 
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