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EVGA - Cherry Picking?

DamanC

DamanC

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Do manufacturers do this?

The new EVGA 8800GT comes in 4 flavours, so do they cherry pick them effiently?

What im trying to find out is, are the 8800GT's (normal spec) going to reach the spec of one of the OC'ed versions or have all of them been nipped, flashed up and shipped out as OC'ed versions?

If you were planning on OCing a card, would you pick a brand that only has one basic version, one basic one from a brands rance that has OCed versions or the OC'ed version?

Are there any stats/reports out there regarding this?

Cheers
 
Its not about the 8800GT. Its about manufacturers Cherry Picking. the 8800GT was used as an example.

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As far as I am aware manufacturers do usually cherry pick their cores when they make pre-overclocked products, as it lessens the chances of them coming back by the truckload even if the customer hasn't touched the clock frequencies.

Personally I don't think that pre-overclocked cards are worth it as manufacturer overclocks are generally more than safe when replicated at home on normal cards, you can generally overclock much higher anyway.
 
Andeh said:
I am actually curious too as to if the pre overclocked cards are worth paying the extra for, or if you can obtain the same performance increase by overclocking the normal card yourself?
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Aye I've never really heard of a factory overclocked card that couldn't be matched or surpassed easily by a user-overclocked standard edition of the same card.

I think that they do cherry-pick the cores though, but only to play it safe.
 
Andeh said:
I would argue that you need to just shut up :)

I am actually curious too as to if the pre overclocked cards are worth paying the extra for, or if you can obtain the same performance increase by overclocking the normal card yourself?
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please...

I have just answered your question.


Pre overclocked cards are not worth it IMO

I am running my 8800 GT @ 721/1022

Nice post

Andeh ......not
 
easyrider said:
please...

I have just answered your question.


Pre overclocked cards are not worth it IMO

I am running my 8800 GT @ 721/1022

Nice post

Andeh ......not
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actually you posted pretty much the same time I did, so I never read it...
 
So if i am reading this correct (sorry im stupid)
I could buy an 8800 with 500/1100 (not proper spec i know) for £150
Or
I could buy an 8800 with 550/1100 (not proper spec i know) for £160

Because the 2nd one is already overclocked does that mean it generally has better overclocknig potential / heatwise or is it just more because those temps are safe and therefore inside the RMA

OR

Is would the first be a better choice because you pay less and its extremely likely you are going to be able to overclock to the £160 version?

Which is better price/performance? OR AT END OF DAY? is it just down to luck so get the cheapest :P
 
Lighters said:
Because the 2nd one is already overclocked does that mean it generally has better overclocknig potential / heatwise or is it just more because those temps are safe and therefore inside the RMA
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It doesn't really mean it has more overclocking potential really, all it means is that as long as you don't overclock it any further yourself it will be within warranty with the company you bought it from.

At the end of the day just get the cheapest, unless you aren't at all interested in overclocking.
 
Lighters said:
Is would the first be a better choice because you pay less and its extremely likely you are going to be able to overclock to the £160 version?

Which is better price/performance? OR AT END OF DAY? is it just down to luck so get the cheapest :P
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Cheapest

OC cards are 99% marketing GUFF

With 2 seconds in riva tuner one can have a faster card then any pre clocked card in the shops.

For far Cheaper
 
true, I would just buy the cheapest ones, pre overclocked cards just seem like a ploy to rake in a little extra money for the same card.
 
DamanC said:
The new EVGA 8800GT comes in 4 flavours, so do they cherry pick them effiently?
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Its a good question and my best answer would be I don't know lol! :D

I reckon its possible but I don't really see how that would work. I suspect that most manufacturers just buy a shed-load of cards and perform a basic speed binning process on them and the few cards that overclock a bit better or produce a bit less heat get marked up as high-end.

Looking at the first set of overclocking results from these cards flooding into the forums this week they all seem to be overclocking very well but give it a bit more time and you may see some better results from a pre-overclocked card owner.

According to lots of people on these forums they have all got good results from any brand card, a few getting even higher clocks with their vanilla cards than the owners of the premium cards. . . . sweet! :cool:
 
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Big.Wayne said:
I suspect that most manufacturers just buy a shed-load of cards and perform a basic speed binning process on them and the few cards that overclock a bit better or produce a bit less heat get marked up as high-end.
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That's exactly how I imagine that they cherry pick them. ;) :)

Either that or Nvidia seperates them at the TSMC fab or whever they're made, then these companies buy them in seperate groups to put in whichever product ranges they intend to sell.
 
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Fact not all 8800GT's are hitting 700mhz on the Cores out the box.

Least if you buy one already that speed it will run it or you get a RMA.

So you either pay more for a guarantee or take pot luck and hope you get a good normal card.
 
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