what if the nazi's won the 2nd world war?

This thread is retarded.

I fail to understand how anyone can look with even remotely rose tinted glasses on the Nazi's.

Good grief.
 
Hitler WAS the Nazi party. There would never have been a NSDAP without Hitler. The German Worker's Party before it didnt share quite the same views as Hitler did.

So without him, theres no way events would have unfolded as they did.
the DAP was the nazi party, all that changed was the name (and leader(*new* labour :eek:))
 
the DAP was the nazi party, all that changed was the name (and leader(*new* labour ))

I know it was the party that came before the NSDAP, but when Hitler became leader it changed hugely. It was no longer the same party.
 
This thread is retarded.

I fail to understand how anyone can look with even remotely rose tinted glasses on the Nazi's.

Good grief.

At least someone sees the bigger picture. I am astounded that any person can look on a Nazi regime as utopia.

Take Heinrich Himmler for example. This is the man who condemned blood sports as " cold blooded murder of innocent and defenceless animals " yet he was one of the driving forces behind the Final Solution which saw six million Jews exterminated for no other reason than they were Jews.

He also authorised experimentation on prisoners to gain knowledge on how German air crews but be saved. Such as .....

25 men placed in a van with an observation window so the results could be seen on the effect of progressively removing the air from inside. The result being haemorrhaging of the lungs or the brain. Anyone who survived such agony were usually killed.

Prisoners lowered into tanks of ice-cold water until they fell unconcious. Blood was then taken from the neck each time the body temperature fell by one degree. Resucitation on dead subjects was exprimented on using sun lamps, hot water bottles and electro-therapy until the idea of animal warmth was considered and Himmler instructed that prostitutes be used for this purpose, non-German prostitutes of course.

Sulfonamide was tested on subjects as well where wounds would be deliberately inflicted on prisoners and infection speeded up by rubbing wood shavings or glass into wounds.

This is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the sheer brutality and mindless evil that personifies Nazism and any person who sees them through rose tinted glasses or thinks that the world would be a better place under such rule clearly hasn't picked up a history book. More sadly, it flies in the face and is an insult to all persons living or dead that fought to destroy the Nazis.
 
good comment

i just think the world would be more under control if the nazis had won the ww2.

but look at the world today, we let third world people breed like rats, they are completely out of control. all we do is exploit their cheap labour. this will have a very bad ending. the world population needs to come down to 2Billion otherwise we all die.
 
good comment

i just think the world would be more under control if the nazis had won the ww2.

For certain values of "control", yes, but hardly a control many would relish.

neocon said:
but look at the world today, we let third world people breed like rats, they are completely out of control.

We "let" them, do we? Who died and made you king? We don't "let" them do anything, they just get on with their thing. And how does it affect you anyway? What damage does it do to you that people in Africa are churning out babies to combat infant mortality (look it up) due to lack of food, water and disease?

neocon said:
all we do is exploit their cheap labour.

You hardly sound like a person who is concerned about sweatshop labour, if I might say so.

neocon said:
this will have a very bad ending.

Yes, but not the way you're thinking.

neocon said:
the world population needs to come down to 2Billion otherwise we all die.

Source please.

Man, I really shouldn't argue with you... I'll get banned again when I lose my temper with you.
 
How the hell would the Nazis of controlled population. They were given rewards for having more children. Hitler wanted the women to stay in the home so they could create future soldiers for him!
 
How the hell would the Nazis of controlled population. They were given rewards for having more children. Hitler wanted the women to stay in the home so they could create future soldiers for him!

and educating them and putting them to decent use
 
This thread is retarded.

I fail to understand how anyone can look with even remotely rose tinted glasses on the Nazi's.

Good grief.

It wasn't Nazism or the politics in themselves that were the problem, it was the policies and atrocities carried out by the evil people who ran it. Exactly the same as Communism in a way, in fact though the regimes hated each other (Mainly because Hitler considered the Soviets untermensch) they were scarily similar, both being socialist regimes.

Given the social upheavel, inflation, mass unemployment etc that were going on in Germany at the time (Directly caused by the reparations and restrictions put in by the allies at the end of WW1) it's hardly suprising that the new, dynamic nationalistic party came to power.

However Hitler could never have won WWII. He was too hands on, overruled his Generals and ended up fighting his war on 3 fronts. If he had stayed out of Russia I think he would have won. If he had not declared war on the USA, and we had been unable to get them to join, i think we would have had a stalemate.
 
Decent use being killing Jews, black people, etc?

no,

i don't see why jewish people aren't "caucasion" anyway. they lived an bred with european people for 1000yrs before they mostly left europe.

i'm thinking more about africans, south asians, southeast asians, chinese, other middle eatern peoples. there the ones who seem to needlessly overpopulate.
 
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