whey protein advice

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Ive decided to use whey protein and would like some advice on what to buy :)

I see that a lot of you already recommend myprotein and I've just been on there myself and am a little confused as there seems to be so much choice (impact/mypro/concententrate/isolate). I just want some standard unflavoured whey protein.. which is the one that i need?

Also i would appreciate some advice on when and how to take it. Should i be taking this stuff before/after a workout, when i wake up/bedtime? How much should i be taking and how is it measured out (eg. weight/tablespoons? etc.)

What other stuff should i order that may be useful to me? Like I've seen a shaker on there which seems pretty handy, is there anything thing else along those lines that may be of use?


Thanks a lot :D
 
It's the Impact Whey Protein Concentrate 80. If you scroll down to the bottom of the home page and enter www.bulkpowders.co.uk in the price matcher you can get 5KG for £31.95, and if you enter the code MP14984 at the checkout you should get an extra 5% discount!

When to take it: Well depends really on when and what you're eating, what your goals are, your size, how often you lift etc so it would be beneficial for you to post some more information before I can help more. It's measured with a large scoop, also sold at myprotein. Each scoop measures out 25g of protein.

The shakers are hugely handy. Definately get one. If you're just starting out I would say that protein is a great start and that you shouldn't really need anything else to begin with except some good food at home and an idea of what you're doing.
 
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Cheers for the help, firstly.. what are the difference between these two products:

http://www.myprotein.co.uk/bulk-powders/protein-powders/impact-whey-protein/
http://www.myprotein.co.uk/bulk-supplies/unflavoured-whey/impact-whey-protein-(unflavoured)/

They seem to be identical to me, other than one is much more expensive the the other. I would go on right ahead and order the 5kg tub, but it seems a bit excessive and I'd much rather start off with a smaller amount just to try it out :)

My goals:
Basically, increase in size. I don't want to be huge, but my aim is to get bigger until i am satisfied, then just to maintain it. I am currently 5'10 and roughly 10 1/2 - 11 stone, i eat 3-4 meals a day and go to the gym 3 times a week. I can provide more info on my diet and workout in the gym if needed, though i may start new threads for those haha :D
 
ojste said:
Ive decided to use whey protein and would like some advice on what to buy :)

I see that a lot of you already recommend myprotein and I've just been on there myself and am a little confused as there seems to be so much choice (impact/mypro/concententrate/isolate). I just want some standard unflavoured whey protein.. which is the one that i need?

Also i would appreciate some advice on when and how to take it. Should i be taking this stuff before/after a workout, when i wake up/bedtime? How much should i be taking and how is it measured out (eg. weight/tablespoons? etc.)

What other stuff should i order that may be useful to me? Like I've seen a shaker on there which seems pretty handy, is there anything thing else along those lines that may be of use?


Thanks a lot :D
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Please state your workout routine and how much lifting you do.
 
ojste said:
Cheers for the help, firstly.. what are the difference between these two products:

http://www.myprotein.co.uk/bulk-powders/protein-powders/impact-whey-protein/
http://www.myprotein.co.uk/bulk-supplies/unflavoured-whey/impact-whey-protein-(unflavoured)/

They seem to be identical to me, other than one is much more expensive the the other. I would go on right ahead and order the 5kg tub, but it seems a bit excessive and I'd much rather start off with a smaller amount just to try it out :)
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they are the exact same thing

im assuming they have them both there for the exact reason why you are hesitating to buy the 5kg tub, as some people will only want a small amount from which they can make more money :)

as for your diet and routine, yes post them up :D
 
Styles said:
It's the Impact Whey Protein Concentrate 80. If you scroll down to the bottom of the home page and enter www.bulkpowders.co.uk in the price matcher you can get 5KG for £31.95, and if you enter the code MP14984 at the checkout you should get an extra 5% discount!
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thanks for that :D just about to buy some whey

edit: to the OP i felt the same as you about buying some bulk whey, but i managed to get through 1kg in 5 weeks having 1/2 scoops a day, so if your going to be committed to drinking it, regardless of taste... buy big :D
 
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ok here goes :)

First of all, I've been doing 2 day splits and neglecting my legs which is terrible i know, but I'm coming back from an injury and planning on a fresh start with a proper 3 day split:

All exercise names are taken from http://www.coopersguns.com/videos/exercise-encyclopedia/

Monday - Chest/Shoulders/Triceps
3x8 Dumbell Bench Press
3x8 Dumbell Bench Press (Incline)
3x8 Shoulder Press
3x8 Lateral Raise
3x8 Single Arm Extension (Standing)

Wednesday - Back/Biceps
3x8 Seated Row
3x10 Single Arm Row (Palm Down)
3x8 Deadlifts
3x8 Alternate Curl
3x12 Dumbell Shrugs

Friday - Legs/Abs (Need advice on this!)
3x8 Squats
3x15 Sit ups
3x15 Leg raises

So thats my routine, and as you can see there is a severe lack of leg exercises since ive been neglecting them and dont know whats good. Any advice of any part of the workout is appreciated :D. Bare in mind that my (uni) gym isnt the greatest and lacks a barbell. We have access to dumbells, a smith machine, and machines in general.


As for my diet.. its not great. I dont follow a strict plan of any sort but heres a loose list of what i eat:

Breakfast: Sandwich / Cooked breakfast / Omelette with bread
Lunch: Jacket Potatoe / Sandwich / Something meaty, eg. pasty/bake
Tea: Pasta based meal / Any sort of meat chicken/pork/fish etc usually with some sort of veg and chips/potatoes

I tend to snack on anything ready to eat stuff i can find from super markets, so this could be sausage rolls / mini scotch eggs that sort of thing. I don't know if thats a good or bad idea, i have a loose idea that meat = good...

I try to eat as much fruit as possible, probably averaging a piece a day, i have at least one portion of veg a day and drink a lot of water and fresh orange juice.

Any advice on diet would be great, though baring in mind i dont want to make huge changes.. What i mean is i see all these diets that are so strict and everything seems to be oats, musli, tinned tuna, supplements and it just puts me off. Sorry if i sound negative about this, i will definitely take on board all suggestions and would appreciate ideas on what foods and food groups i should be eating :)

Also advice on how much and when i should be taking my protein in relation to my workout and diet would be great :D
 
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ojste said:
ok here goes :)

First of all, I've been doing 2 day splits and neglecting my legs which is terrible i know, but I'm coming back from an injury and planning on a fresh start with a proper 3 day split:

All exercise names are taken from http://www.coopersguns.com/videos/exercise-encyclopedia/

Monday - Chest/Shoulders/Triceps
3x8 Dumbell Bench Press
3x8 Dumbell Bench Press (Incline)
3x8 Shoulder Press
3x8 Lateral Raise
3x8 Single Arm Extension (Standing)

Wednesday - Back/Biceps
3x8 Seated Row
3x10 Single Arm Row (Palm Down)
3x8 Deadlifts
3x8 Alternate Curl
3x12 Dumbell Shrugs

Friday - Legs/Abs (Need advice on this!)
3x8 Squats
3x15 Sit ups
3x15 Leg raises

So thats my routine, and as you can see there is a severe lack of leg exercises since ive been neglecting them and dont know whats good. Any advice of any part of the workout is appreciated :D. Bare in mind that my (uni) gym isnt the greatest and lacks a barbell. We have access to dumbells, a smith machine, and machines in general.


As for my diet.. its not great. I dont follow a strict plan of any sort but heres a loose list of what i eat:

Breakfast: Sandwich / Cooked breakfast / Omelette with bread
Lunch: Jacket Potatoe / Sandwich / Something meaty, eg. pasty/bake
Tea: Pasta based meal / Any sort of meat chicken/pork/fish etc usually with some sort of veg and chips/potatoes

I tend to snack on anything ready to eat stuff i can find from super markets, so this could be sausage rolls / mini scotch eggs that sort of thing. I don't know if thats a good or bad idea, i have a loose idea that meat = good...

I try to eat as much fruit as possible, probably averaging a piece a day, i have at least one portion of veg a day and drink a lot of water and fresh orange juice.

Any advice on diet would be great, though baring in mind i dont want to make huge changes.. What i mean is i see all these diets that are so strict and everything seems to be oats, musli, tinned tuna, supplements and it just puts me off. Sorry if i sound negative about this, i will definitely take on board all suggestions and would appreciate ideas on what foods and food groups i should be eating :)

Also advice on how much and when i should be taking my protein in relation to my workout and diet would be great :D
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Btw You should mix some cardio inbetween days of lifting....


You should be taking approx .9 grams of protein per pound of body weight and include more of Tuna, Chicken in your diets.


When is the best time to take a protein supplement?

This depends on your diet and when you are eating foods rich in protein. Here are a few points when it is best to take a protein supplement:


-Right after a workout - this is when your body goes into a stage of recovery and growth. Having the amino acids that make up the protein is key at this point.

-First thing in the morning - because your body has just gone though 8 hours (or however long you sleep for) of not having food - so the protein levels are way down.

-Before you go to sleep - this helps prevent the protein breakdown that naturally occurs when we sleep. If you are not trying to build muscle mass then this protein breakdown is fine. But if you are working out - you want to try to minimize any losses you suffer when you sleep and your protein metabolism slows down.


Just a warning, over dose on protein will damage your kidneys and liver as your body won't be able to process all of the proteins into amino acids






For all the information you need on body building, i suggest you visit www.bodybuilding.com/forum
 
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ProOrWhat said:
Btw You should mix some cardio inbetween days of lifting....
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He's looking to bulk, so why would this be the case?
You should be taking approx .9 grams of protein per pound of body weight and include more of Tuna, Chicken in your diets.
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Do you really believe there's a need to be so exact with protein intake? Tuna intake should be limited imho to 2-3 cans a week due to heavy metal toxicity, things like this should worry you more than protein intake...
Just a warning, over dose on protein will damage your kidneys and liver as your body won't be able to process all of the proteins into amino acids
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What would you class as an overdose? I eat a minimum of 250g of protein a day and very rarely is it that low, sometimes even as high as 400g. Am I going to die?
 
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ojste said:
I try to eat as much fruit as possible, probably averaging a piece a day, i have at least one portion of veg a day
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sorry i know its not helpful but that made me **** myself. how can "a piece a day" be as much as possible lol. imo you should be eating a lot more, not necessarily in regards to gaining weight but just for general health
 
So i guess i should be taking it around twice a day, once in the morning and once after a workout? 25g (1 scoop) per portion?

How should it be taken on non workout days?

Also any advice on some good legs/abs exercises?

edit: @above, i mean as much as possible for me as im not a huge fan of fruit. I eat it because its good for me, not because i enjoy it
 
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sorry to thread jack but is it best to take the protein shake before morning exercise or after. Shold it go:

wake up
run/exercise
protein + breakfast

or

wake up
protein
run/exercise

etc
 
gambitt said:
sorry to thread jack but is it best to take the protein shake before morning exercise or after. Shold it go:

wake up
run/exercise
protein + breakfast

or

wake up
protein
run/exercise

etc
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depends what you are looking to achieve from your 'run/exercise'
 
Word of warning about having whey on an empty stomach in the morning. It happens to make me feel queasy and have no appetite for a good while after, if I have it on it's own. So much so that it's not worth me having it in the morning.

You'll probably be alright though.
 
I have one in the morning with breakfast, one after workout (Or just mid-day if it's a non-workout day) and one before bed, all with milk. It seems to be working well so far.

Also a word of warning if you go for the unflavoured whey, it really doesn't taste very nice. At first when I was drinking it I was almost being sick, but then I discovered that if you hold your nose you can't taste it at all :p :D
 
I've only ever got mine from Sports-Nutrition.net, and it's fine with water or milk, doesn't taste bad at all :).
Paracelsus said:
Word of warning about having whey on an empty stomach in the morning. It happens to make me feel queasy and have no appetite for a good while after, if I have it on it's own. So much so that it's not worth me having it in the morning.

You'll probably be alright though.
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I'd personally have an all carb meal first thing in the morning.
 
could i not just mix in something like orange cordial in it to mask the taste or is that a bad idea?
 
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