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AGP KEEPS GOING! HD3850! :)

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Hey guys....*big pinch of salt* but the inquirer is going along with the story that the HD3850 will indeed have an AGP variant and I must say that is decent news for the ever "dying" format of AGP!

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2007/11/06/amd-set-capture-100-agp-market

Wont be a massive revival of course but still it should be near hd2900 performance as we know and for AGP users this is indeed some decent news if it turns out to be true :)
 
Good news. I know many will just point out that it's so cheap to switch to PCIe that it's a waste of money, but I think choice, even for AGP users, is a good thing.

Question - will AGP bottleneck it?
 
cough cough cough..................wheeeze *soft thump*


^ AGP stumbling and dying.

this might say more about the HD3850 than the slot tbh ;)
 
now all we need is a certain member to come along and slate ati and their drivers and this threads finished, any guesses? :p

seriously though when are they gonna let it die, pci-e 2 is now here and still they continue to support agp, they should be moving forward, how many people now that have top rigs use agp? or how many people still upgrading use agp? the gap in the market must be less than 0.1% hardly worth filling, in fact most agp systems would be bottlenecked by their ancient cpu's
 
Psycho Sonny said:
now all we need is a certain member to come along and slate ati and their drivers and this threads finished, any guesses? :p

seriously though when are they gonna let it die, pci-e 2 is now here and still they continue to support agp, they should be moving forward, how many people now that have top rigs use agp? or how many people still upgrading use agp? the gap in the market must be less than 0.1% hardly worth filling, in fact most agp systems would be bottlenecked by their ancient cpu's
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AGP is in silver haired healthy late middle age. The corpse is still very much alive and enjoying life. We've already seen a superior technology (for games anyway) in the form of CRT monitors being removed from the market to suit the transport and distribution profitability of manufacturers and suppliers. Lets not upset the masses of people who don't have top end rigs and still use AGP, by obsoleting their systems. Even with a lowly Athlon XP 2400+ coupled with decent amount of RAM and decent video card it is possible to get stunning graphics at acceptable FPS. The issue for many people is not the cost of upgrading, its the hassle of rebuilding an entire PC's operating system from scratch. Perhaps in these forums we forget that most PC users can change a video card but that is about the limit of what they can, or want to do. These people eke out the maximum life from their PC then buy a new one.
 
Considering the performance of my agp port is better than that of my pci-e port (only 4x), I'd be interested, as it means I would not have to upgrade motherboard. (although it does severly limit overclocking on the cpu, so do want to eventually get rid of it).

Matthew
 
Hell, you'd think some people were offended by the lingering existence of AGP!

Personally, I say great. It does not hurt me in any way, and offers something new for those who just can't afford a total system upgrade.

I would love to see some benchmarks comparing AGP and PCI cards of the same flavour with todays games.
 
ffallic said:
Hell, you'd think some people were offended by the lingering existence of AGP!
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Before I made the switch I hated it, it was hard to find a card, and when I did it had a nice premium on it. So, I still hate it. :p

Frippy said:
Unfortunatley there are too many people on that hardware, people are reluctant to change or go to the expense of buying new kit.
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True.. True...
 
And I've just gone and got a A8N-e nforce 4 ultra mb for my 4200X2 939 so I can upgrade to Pci express :rolleyes:.
Does anyone know if the Asus A8N-e is Pci 1.0a or 1.1? I'm a bit worried that the new pci 2.0 cards won't work in it, but because I want to use my new 4200+ 939 and my new 2 gb ocz PE ddr 400 my choices of new mainboard are limited. The nf4 ultra is about the best chipset for skt 939 I think (I don't really need sli), does anyone know of any better? Oh well the pci express card usually seem cheaper that their agp equivalents .... as long as thay work in my slot that is::confused:
 
Psycho Sonny said:
seriously though when are they gonna let it die, pci-e 2 is now here and still they continue to support agp, they should be moving forward, how many people now that have top rigs use agp? or how many people still upgrading use agp? the gap in the market must be less than 0.1% hardly worth filling, in fact most agp systems would be bottlenecked by their ancient cpu's
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You're a graphics and game enthusiast though just like I am and most people round here. There's millions of people out there with old P4 systems though who can find £90 for an X1950 Pro AGP but can't find £250 for the whole hog. The sort of people who don't need high res, or the latest effects, or 60 fps, they just want a system that will run games. Also the sort of people who feel comfortable changing a video card but not building a whole system. AGP won't die until there's no market for it.
 
Taget said:
Does anyone know if the Asus A8N-e is Pci 1.0a or 1.1? I'm a bit worried that the new pci 2.0 cards won't work in it, but because I want to use my new 4200+ 939 and my new 2 gb ocz PE ddr 400 my choices of new mainboard are limited.
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Should be no problem. I'm running an 8800GT in my PCI-E 1.0a slot.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
seriously though when are they gonna let it die, pci-e 2 is now here and still they continue to support agp, they should be moving forward, how many people now that have top rigs use agp? or how many people still upgrading use agp? the gap in the market must be less than 0.1% hardly worth filling, in fact most agp systems would be bottlenecked by their ancient cpu's
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you maybe able to afford new graphic cards and systems everytime a new part comes out but for the people who can't afford it and have a agp system it mean they don't need to worry about upgrade they whole system to get a good graphic card...
 
I agree with fish99.

In addition though I'd like to add that there are some of us who have 2nd/3rd/4th etc computers that are by no means slow/useless that are still based on AGP. Its nice to still have the option of upgrading the graphics card in them.
 
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