So, this forum doesn't seem to like the TT Big Water 745 much...

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So I was wondering why. A search reveals lots of posts saying "If you want simple watercooling, go with the H20." but it seems like for more money, you get a lot less kit. Obviously nothing's ever that simple, the components could all be junk, but a quick google revealed lots of good reviews. I'm sure it can't compare with a custom build, but then you can't make much of a custom build with £75 delivered. So... Where's the catch?
 
Lack of performance! Value for money, risk of corrosion, lack of upgradability, your mates might find out!

Either get High end air that will perform better for less money, do it properly and get custom, or get the H20 that has some pedigree.
 
'Kay, but risk of corrosion, I know it has copper and aluminium in the same circuit but the coolant's supposed to counter that. And upgradability, I've seen it used with an XT1900 of some sort on a seperate block, all in one loop, and according to the review it worked out about as good as air but quieter. Obviously it's not a patch on the real deal, but how much w/c can you buy for £75? :D Like I say, I've not found a single bad review, so the more real experience the better.

I'm looking at this purely for noise, not for mad overclockz...
 
Northwind2 said:
I'm looking at this purely for noise, not for mad overclockz...
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Most decent air cooled systems produce hardly any noise at all nowa days.

My PC is completly silent and I have these in it...

3 x Yate Loons.
1 x Noctua fan that came with my NH-U12F
PSU fan
8800 Ultra fan


Just swap all you fans for Yate Loons and then just buy a decent air cooler.
 
I had the Thermaltake 745 kit and it cooled my e6300 at 3.2ghz just fine. I don't know why you think it will corrode as there is no aluminum in the loop...

However, building your own kit from used parts is much better and will cost roughly the same.
 
gurusan said:
I don't know why you think it will corrode as there is no aluminum in the loop...
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a quick google said:
120 mm Radiator / Fan
  • [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Dimensions: [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]122 x 35 x 166mm[/FONT]
  • [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Construction: Aluminum / ABS Plastic[/FONT]
240 mm Radiator / Fan
  • [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Dimensions: [/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]272 x 35 x 120mm[/FONT]
  • [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Construction: Aluminum / ABS Plastic[/FONT]
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The radiator is made of copper tubing brazed to aluminum fins. The water travels inside the copper tubing so it's never in contact with any aluminum.
 
Azza said:
Most decent air cooled systems produce hardly any noise at all nowa days.

Just swap all you fans for Yate Loons and then just buy a decent air cooler.
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Ah, just to explain I currently have a Titan Vanessa-L (not a popular choice, but better than a Tuniq Tower) with a Yate Loon 120mm attached, and the case has 3 Yate Loons as well (front, back and side), all undervolted. It's pretty quiet, but still loud enough that it annoys me just slightly. It's got a healthy overclock (3.6ghz out of a 2.8ghz Pentium D just now, though I've got a 6600 to fit at some point)

I'm very picky about noise, really. Obviously I could just drop the overclock, or fit a chip that doesn't double as central heating :D but I'm just looking at all the options and this is an interesting one. In particular the remote res appeals, there's an air vent about a foot and a half from my PC where it'd fit nicely to get cold air, and it'd be out of line-of-hearing there too.

Gurusan, thanks for the real world experience there, very useful. And to everyone else too, much appreciated.
 
I still highly suggest building your own kit out of used parts. You can get a decent pump and block for 35-40 quid....and a radiator for 20ish....then you need tubing, clamps, coolant which shouldn't be more than another 20....you already have the fans.
 
I have just had a new WC setup delivered... EVERYTHING i need, £110 delivered. Totally "Custom"

Find WelshTom's site (No linkage, he's a competitor),
 
Northwind2 said:
So I was wondering why. A search reveals lots of posts saying "If you want simple watercooling, go with the H20." but it seems like for more money, you get a lot less kit. Obviously nothing's ever that simple, the components could all be junk, but a quick google revealed lots of good reviews. I'm sure it can't compare with a custom build, but then you can't make much of a custom build with £75 delivered. So... Where's the catch?
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A high quality air cooler is cheaper, not any more noisy and produces as good or better cooling. In other words, why bother?
 
Azza said:
Most decent air cooled systems produce hardly any noise at all nowa days.

My PC is completly silent and I have these in it...

3 x Yate Loons.
1 x Noctua fan that came with my NH-U12F
PSU fan
8800 Ultra fan


Just swap all you fans for Yate Loons and then just buy a decent air cooler.
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Your computer is far from completely silent. The 8800 ultra fan alone is fairly noisy, not to consider 4 more 120 mm fans...
 
gurusan said:
I still highly suggest building your own kit out of used parts. You can get a decent pump and block for 35-40 quid....and a radiator for 20ish....then you need tubing, clamps, coolant which shouldn't be more than another 20....you already have the fans.
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You make very good sense, there. I've never really considered water cooling before, it was the all-in-one element of the kits that appeals but then that's their worst side as well of course.

Thanks folks!
 
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