Child Support Agency Question

doopydug · 13 Nov 2007 at 18:26

I have split up from my wife and have been paying money to the CSA for 5 years now.

They recently sent a questionnairre to "update" their records and one of the questions was asking details of my partners income (with whom I now share a home and two more kids).

Problem is she doesn't want anyone to know what she earns - its none of their business as far as she is concerned.

Question is - do they have a right to know this information?

romperstomper · 13 Nov 2007 at 18:35

I found honesty with them was not the best policy ,lie lie and lie some more other wise they take every penny from you and more :mad:

Tell them she dose not work or something or you have split up anything but the truth

I believe that if you refuse info they assume the highest figures !

Indy500 · 13 Nov 2007 at 18:37

The CSA shouldn't exist. Ex partners should go by their own agreements, and if they made none, then none should be enforced. However, I suspect you may get into legal trouble withholding the information...

camels5 · 13 Nov 2007 at 18:40

sr4470 said:
The CSA shouldn't exist. Ex partners should go by their own agreements, and if they made none, then none should be enforced. However, I suspect you may get into legal trouble withholding the information...

In an ideal world that would be great,

What if your partner refuses to make an agreement?

Indy500 · 13 Nov 2007 at 18:41

camels5 said:
In an ideal world that would be great,

What if your partner refuses to make an agreement?

After the fact? That's no use. I'm talking about pre-nuptial agreements.

doopydug · 13 Nov 2007 at 18:51

Lying is not an option - both myself and my partner would like to keep things on the straight and narrow - she just doesnt feel that HER income should be considered when deciding how much I should pay for MY child

Indy500 · 13 Nov 2007 at 18:52

doopydug said:
Lying is not an option - both myself and my partner would like to keep things on the straight and narrow - she just doesnt feel that HER income should be considered when deciding how much I should pay for MY child

The government are obsessed with means testing and *always* use *household income* as the benchmark.

HungryHippos · 13 Nov 2007 at 18:53

doopydug said:
Lying is not an option - both myself and my partner would like to keep things on the straight and narrow - she just doesnt feel that HER income should be considered when deciding how much I should pay for MY child

I think that is fair enough but they may see it different

SB118 · 13 Nov 2007 at 18:55

Tell them you don't know?

The standards the CSA work to are a complete joke too. My daughter is with me for 4 days and 3 nights, with my ex for 3 days and 4 nights. Therefore, i'm a non resident parent and should give my ex money to look after her. utter kin farce,

LordSplodge · 13 Nov 2007 at 18:59

doopydug said:
Question is - do they have a right to know this information?

They probably do have a legal right but I'd not bother telling them. Omitting information isn't technically lying.

However, what they hell does your new partners income have to do with paying for a child from your previous relationship? What about a previous previous relationship.

God the CSA are a bunch of foul ups.

Same with the Student Loans Company (grrrr) as they always ask for my wife's income on the proof of income forms. Never once filled out her details as it is my debt and if I fill out hers they'd only want more money anyway.

Government and Government Agencies are all rob dogging b******* :mad:

Indy500 · 13 Nov 2007 at 19:00

LordSplodge said:
Same with the Student Loans Company (grrrr) as they always ask for my wife's income on the proof of income forms. Never once filled out her details as it is my debt and if I fill out hers they'd only want more money anyway.

Government and Government Agencies are all rob dogging b*******

I pay those kind of loans back via direct debit at a fixed amount per month.

LordSplodge · 13 Nov 2007 at 19:08

sr4470 said:
I pay those kind of loans back via direct debit at a fixed amount per month.

Yeah I get to pay my Student Loan back via fixed direct debit but it doesn't stop 'em sending out the forms each year to try and get more out of me. :mad:

Indy500 · 13 Nov 2007 at 19:09

LordSplodge said:
Yeah I get to pay my Student Loan back via fixed direct debit but it doesn't stop 'em sending out the forms each year to try and get more out of me.

I wish they'd a) fix their website b) send me statements more than once a year or c) get callcentre staff with a clue.

LordSplodge · 13 Nov 2007 at 19:15

sr4470 said:
I wish they'd a) fix their website b) send me statements more than once a year or c) get callcentre staff with a clue.

d: stop being complete *****

area51_for_psx · 13 Nov 2007 at 19:17

It really depends. If your ex wife has told them your partner is working and you do not supply the information they will place an Interim Maintenance Assessment Cat B. On the case for failure to supply information and put your liability up.

So if they have asked they usually have been told she works by your ex wife. So it is best to supply them or you will get penalised.

Guess were I work

*Runs and hides*

Indy500 · 13 Nov 2007 at 19:19

LordSplodge said:
d: stop being complete *****

To be fair I'd expect them to want to maximise the interest and spread out payments to make it seem soft like the private firms...

Angilion · 13 Nov 2007 at 19:31

doopydug said:
I have split up from my wife and have been paying money to the CSA for 5 years now.

They recently sent a questionnairre to "update" their records and one of the questions was asking details of my partners income (with whom I now share a home and two more kids).

Problem is she doesn't want anyone to know what she earns - its none of their business as far as she is concerned.

Question is - do they have a right to know this information?

I'm slightly surprised that they ask for it at all, rather than just taking it from the Inland Revenue.

Your current partner is legally obliged to pay your ex-wife, whatever she (your current partner) thinks of the situation. You could both see it as highly insulting - she has to pay your previous lover for the privilege of living with and you are being traded as a commodity.

You can lie to them...and leave yourselves open to fraud charges.

More than one relationship has foundered because of this.

alexakasloth · 13 Nov 2007 at 19:38

doopydug said:
Lying is not an option - both myself and my partner would like to keep things on the straight and narrow - she just doesnt feel that HER income should be considered when deciding how much I should pay for MY child

Then put on the form n/a. If they get their panties in a twist they will phone you and then you can talk to them.

area51_for_psx · 13 Nov 2007 at 19:41

Angilion said:
I'm slightly surprised that they ask for it at all, rather than just taking it from the Inland Revenue.

Your current partner is legally obliged to pay your ex-wife, whatever she (your current partner) thinks of the situation. You could both see it as highly insulting - she has to pay your previous lover for the privilege of living with and you are being traded as a commodity.

You can lie to them...and leave yourselves open to fraud charges.

More than one relationship has foundered because of this.

Im sorry to tell you but that is incorrect information. The CSa only want his partners income so we can check and see if she can contribute to household bills. That is all her income is used for she has no obligation to pay his ex wife anything.

malfunkshun · 13 Nov 2007 at 19:46

area51_for_psx said:
Im sorry to tell you but that is incorrect information. The CSa only want his partners income so we can check and see if she can contribute to household bills. That is all her income is used for she has no obligation to pay his ex wife anything.

No, but by considering that she can contribute to household expenses his liability will be increased. So whats the difference?